Yes. I'm not that bad but I know people who are. Actually, during the holidays the 
secretary over here would come over like my pusher ans say "pst. Michael, I've got ya 
godiva". I had enough to put me off chocolate for almost a month.

At 12:14 PM 2/25/02, you wrote:
>Have you seen the t-shirt in the form of a ransom note (letters/words cut
>from magazines) that says "Hand over the chocolate and no one gets hurt"?
>
>(Just kidding)
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:07 AM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: RE: Come see the violence inherent in the system!
>> 
>> 
>> And how many people have you beaten up for a candy bar? There 
>> are degrees of low impulse control. Personal control such as 
>> for a diet is usually lower than public control such as just 
>> grabbing something you want. I'm great with the public 
>> (wouldn't even use some milk from the work fridge because its 
>> not mine) but my private control is a bit shaky. I've sworn 
>> off chocolate a number of times to no effect. I've sworn on 
>> vegetables just as often but my diet still looks like that of 
>> a lion (meat, meat and more meat). 
>> A child slowly learns both the personal and public impulse 
>> control. Some faster and some slower. Hinda still sometimes 
>> grabs toys from Moshe but would never do so to a different 
>> child. That shows impulse control (brothers don't count as 
>> much :)  ). Her internal schema says that strangers and 
>> friends are out of bounds for grabbing, brothers should be 
>> out of bounds as well but sometime....
>> For a child to attack someone in public really shows a 
>> breakdown in their control. 
>> 
>> At 11:41 AM 2/25/02, you wrote:
>> >Interestingly, it was Disney movies that helped our son 
>> grasp the concept of
>> >reality vs. pretend. We pointed out to him that there was a 
>> real boy named
>> >Tommy Kirk who pretended to be other children in a number of movies.
>> >
>> >And ya HAD to mention candy bars 
>> >I STILL have "low impulse control" in some areas <sigh>
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 8:40 AM
>>> To: CF-Community
>>> Subject: RE: Come see the violence inherent in the system!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> True. :)
>>> While I am a proud papa and love my kids, I'm not sure that 
>>> their taking responsibility for their actions and knowing the 
>>> difference between real and pretend is all nurture (or 
>>> genetics for that matter). Moshe will come home with a story 
>>> and will tell it to us and then say that its all pretend and 
>>> didn't happen. He knows the difference. Hinda will sometimes 
>>> get upset with herself when she doesn't act right. She knows 
>>> that she's not doing the right thing but at the time her 
>>> impulses are more powerful than her common sense (like when 
>>> she's overtired). That may be the issue here. Rather than the 
>>> child not knowing the difference between real and pretend, he 
>>> may have low impulse control. This is the 'voice in our head' 
>>> that stops us from just grabbing a candy bar when we want it 
>>> or beating on 
>>> someone when they upset us. Super ego, if you want.
>
>
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