Obviously my description was over simplified, but the point remains the same.
We do have distinct national cultures. -----Original Message----- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 1:37 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad? yeah and it isn't worth fighting over :) Side note, as a half-Irish Quebecoise who lives in the Southwestern US, I have to say that I think you underestimate the importance both of the Irish in Canada and of Native Americans in the US. In Canada they say First Nations by the way, since the Native Americans are not American ;) However... As someone who is quite conversant with American and English-language Canadian culture, I have to tell you that while there are real differences particularly in the sense of humor ( we are pleased to joke that there are not, but no American had better say that...) these differences are pretty subtle and not perceptible to the naked eye of the average ooooh Iranian. Well. Except for the bits about locking people up in camps and torturing them.... this is not the Canadian way ;) Dana On 8/12/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is a real Canadian culture. > > If you think the blend of native Americans, French and English wouldn't be > different from our Irish, Spanish, English background. > > You're culture values things differently than we do. While not pacifist you > have a longer fuse than we do, are more diplomatic. We are more aggressive. > > Communal defense and rights are valued over individual rights. Same goes > for property rights. > > Hell your government still, legally, draws its authority from the queen. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 12:50 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad? > > this is not a sine qua non. Sweden and Turkey don't have a lot in > common. I am actually rather flattered by the reference to a > theoretical Canadian culture though... you sweet-talker you :) hehe. > > Dana > > On 8/12/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Because the governments and cultures of Canada and Mexico do not follow > the > > social and moral norms of the United States. > > > > I am a nationalist. Not a trans-nationalist, not a globalist. > > > > The United States of America is my nation, my people, my culture, and my > > society. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:41 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad? > > > > so why would you not be in favor of a European-Union-type model? > > > > Dana > > > > On 8/12/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes I believe in minimal government intrusion, not no intrusion at all. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 3:19 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad? > > > > > > so wait. I am not trying to give you a hard time here, honest. But > > > aren't you the one who advocates a minimum of government regulation? > > > Or do I have you mixed up with Gruss? > > > > > > By the way, I have no particular agenda in terms of illegal aliens. > > > They are illegal for a start, which is cartainly a problem any way you > > > look at it. But I'd like to stay rooted in reality if possible. If > > > illegal aliens are getting government benefits, I am not sure how. One > > > of the big problems for my local emergency room is that if say a truck > > > full of illegal aliens flips over on the highway, UNMH is shock-trauma > > > for the entire state, and those illegal aliens don't have insurance > > > and are going back to Mexico once they are patched up, so it's a lot > > > of uncompensated care. However. > > > > > > From what I have seen and read, most illegal aliens, here anyway, seem > > > to be self-employed. If this is true it would seem they add value to > > > the economy if anything. > > > > > > http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=881584 > > > > > > On 8/11/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Not pay the least at the cost of the law. > > > > > > > > No. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 10:05 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad? > > > > > > > > it shouldn't be the employers place to do what? Pay the least? I > > > > missed something here surely. > > > > > > > > On 8/11/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > And it shouldn't be the employers place to do that. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 12:30 PM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad? > > > > > > > > > > >Hmm. I am trying a thought experiment here. I am an employer. I > need > > > > > >oh say a janitor. I have one applicant, who has papers that appear > > > > > >legal, though he also does not speak English. I suspect that he may > > be > > > > > >illegal. On the other hand I have a good old boy willing to work > for > > > > > >the same pay and whose accent tells me he comes right out of those > > > > > >hills over yonder. Who will I hire? > > > > > > > > > > > >I am guessing that the unemployed Americans are not where the work > > is. > > > > > > > > > > > >Dana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The next question to ask is how much is the illegal willing to work > > for > > > > and > > > > > how much is the unemployed American asking? Given that I am willing > to > > > bet > > > > > that the employer will hire the one who gets paid the least. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:240072 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
