And so does mine. So what?

Dana

On 8/12/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Obviously my description was over simplified, but the point remains the
> same.
>
> We do have distinct national cultures.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 1:37 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad?
>
> yeah and it isn't worth fighting over :)
>
> Side note, as a half-Irish Quebecoise who lives in the Southwestern
> US, I have to say that I think you underestimate the importance both
> of the Irish in Canada and of Native Americans in the US. In Canada
> they say First Nations by the way, since the Native Americans are not
> American ;)
>
> However... As someone who is quite conversant with American and
> English-language Canadian culture, I have to tell you that while there
> are real differences particularly in the sense of humor ( we are
> pleased to joke that there are not, but no American had better say
> that...) these differences are pretty subtle and not perceptible to
> the naked eye of the average ooooh Iranian.
>
> Well.
>
> Except for the bits about locking people up in camps and torturing
> them.... this is not the Canadian way ;)
>
> Dana
>
>
> On 8/12/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There is a real Canadian culture.
> >
> > If you think the blend of native Americans, French and English wouldn't be
> > different from our Irish, Spanish, English background.
> >
> > You're culture values things differently than we do.  While not pacifist
> you
> > have a longer fuse than we do, are more diplomatic.  We are more
> aggressive.
> >
> > Communal defense and rights are valued over individual rights.  Same goes
> > for property rights.
> >
> > Hell your government still, legally, draws its authority from the queen.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 12:50 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad?
> >
> > this is not a sine qua non. Sweden and Turkey don't have a lot in
> > common. I am actually rather flattered by the reference to a
> > theoretical Canadian culture though... you sweet-talker you :) hehe.
> >
> > Dana
> >
> > On 8/12/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Because the governments and cultures of Canada and Mexico do not follow
> > the
> > > social and moral norms of the United States.
> > >
> > > I am a nationalist.  Not a trans-nationalist, not a globalist.
> > >
> > > The United States of America is my nation, my people, my culture, and my
> > > society.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:41 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad?
> > >
> > > so why would you not be in favor of a European-Union-type model?
> > >
> > > Dana
> > >
> > > On 8/12/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Yes I believe in minimal government intrusion, not no intrusion at
> all.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 3:19 AM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad?
> > > >
> > > > so wait. I am not trying to give you a hard time here, honest. But
> > > > aren't you the one who advocates a minimum of government regulation?
> > > > Or do I have you mixed up with Gruss?
> > > >
> > > > By the way, I have no particular agenda in terms of illegal aliens.
> > > > They are illegal for a start, which is cartainly a problem any way you
> > > > look at it. But I'd like to stay rooted in reality if possible. If
> > > > illegal aliens are getting government benefits, I am not sure how. One
> > > > of the big problems for my local emergency room is that if say a truck
> > > > full of illegal aliens flips over on the highway, UNMH is shock-trauma
> > > > for the entire state, and those illegal aliens don't have insurance
> > > > and are going back to Mexico once they are patched up, so it's a lot
> > > > of uncompensated care. However.
> > > >
> > > > From what I have seen and read, most illegal aliens, here anyway, seem
> > > > to be self-employed. If this is true it would seem they add value to
> > > > the economy if anything.
> > > >
> > > > http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=881584
> > > >
> > > > On 8/11/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Not pay the least at the cost of the law.
> > > > >
> > > > > No.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 10:05 PM
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad?
> > > > >
> > > > > it shouldn't be the employers place to do what? Pay the least? I
> > > > > missed something here surely.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/11/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > And it shouldn't be the employers place to do that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 12:30 PM
> > > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Gas Station Jihad?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Hmm. I am trying a thought experiment here. I am an employer. I
> > need
> > > > > > >oh say a janitor. I have one applicant, who has papers that
> appear
> > > > > > >legal, though he also does not speak English. I suspect that he
> may
> > > be
> > > > > > >illegal. On the other hand I have a good old boy willing to work
> > for
> > > > > > >the same pay and whose accent tells me he comes right out of
> those
> > > > > > >hills over yonder. Who will I hire?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I am guessing that the unemployed Americans are not where the
> work
> > > is.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Dana
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The next question to ask is how much is the illegal willing to
> work
> > > for
> > > > > and
> > > > > > how much is the unemployed American asking? Given that I am
> willing
> > to
> > > > bet
> > > > > > that the employer will hire the one who gets paid the least.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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