The problem isn't that Gruss or I really want to know or care, or that
anybody looking for another way to segregate people, it's the fact that the
idea is being summarily dismissed as impossible, not improbable. An
incredible scientist made a statement that is being rejected based on
politics of the day rather than by serious study. Larry has said that it's
not true based on previous studies... but hasn't admitted that
scientifically, according to the prevailing theories of evolution, it's
possible. He says it's unethical and illegal, but has yet to provide any
sourcess backing that up - which is beside the point in any case. That's the
crux - instead of bashing it scientifically as impossible because it's
revolting, admit that there's a possibility that it might have a grain of
truth based on evolutionary theory, but that study hasn't borne any
empirical evidence towards it, probably due to the fact that the human race
is so mixed up genetically that there are no markers to conclude the actual
racial makeup of a person, nor a way to discount environmental factors.
- Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dinner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <cf-community@houseoffusion.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 3:34 AM
Subject: Re: AYFKM?
> On 10/30/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Wouldn't it be fairly easy to come up, say, an international 4 part
>> intelligence test:
>
>
> Sure! After you're done with that, find the biological counterpart
> to the amount of The Force within one; I can't remember what
> they're called, but Anakin has a grip of 'em.
>
> One Question could be: "will Channing need a translator?"
>
> I don't know about the ethical whatnot, but come on guys, hard
> science? This whole theory of genetics based intelligence is like
> constructing bell towers- big, heavy honking bell towers- on jello.
>
> It's sloppy, soft science. "Here, take two bubble sheets and call
> me in the morning- #2 pencil is no longer needed, we're high tek-
> a ballpoint pen will work fine (just don't mess up)".
>
> It's sorta like the dark side, ya know? Racial profiling and stereo-
> type BS, wanna-be Real type stuff. "Hey, it sorta works ('cept
> when we need it most), lets call it understood!". Or something
> like that. Too bad language is such a poor vehicle for thought,
> (or, well, sentiments along those lines.).
>
> Dana said a great quote earlier, one of those gattaca-type
> quotes. Marvelous.
>
> Why do we pursue the easy ways out? (when it's pretty obvious
> that they are not, in fact, the correct ways out.)
>
> Why do I have so much fun being all weird?
>
> Nature vs. nurture (and defining the two, of course!) are the
> spice of life tho, right? What was that movie with the stock-
> market and the oranges? Ha! Hollywood thinks of these
> experiments before scientists do! Sike.(<--yeah, spelt rite)
>
> 1) you can't test for what you can't define (or it's Hard*)
> *Math Hard. capital Ay-ch Hard. P=NP and whatnot.
> 2) quantum physics
> 3) rich white guys get theirs in the end
> 3a) "our economy rewards people...basis..." - classic! =]
> 3b) Happy Eve Eve (if it's not past midnight where u Arrr)
>
> --
> "Maybe he was joking,"
> "question may be independent of the currently accepted axioms"
>
>
>
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