Isn't he a brit? They really have no business opening their mouth during any discussion of civil liberties or torture.
Dana wrote: > this maybe? > > http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=448717 > > On Feb 13, 2008 12:17 PM, Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I will include another of your comments in my response to your first. >> >>>> I'm using MY definition of what I think is acceptable treatment for an >> enemy combatant. One that has NO rights under the rules of land warfare >> and could be summarily executed at any time as a spy or a saboteur. >> >> Just because you think it is 'acceptable treatment' does not mean the act >> itself is no longer torture. If you think it is acceptable to torture >> people for whatever reason, fine, just say that. >> >> Psychological torture is sometimes worse than physical. Not to be crude, >> but if someone were to dunk your head in a toilet until you almost, or did >> pass out, and you weren't sure whether each time would be your last on this >> earth, I think you would probably start to feel pretty tortured. It has to >> be a horrifying experience. Suffocation has to be one of the worst ways to >> die. >> >> I also find it interesting how the U.S. convicted a Japanese officer after >> WWII of war crimes for waterboarding and sentenced him to 15 years hard >> labor, but now it's AOK when it is useful for 'us'. >> >> I am still trying to find something I read about what actually happens >> during waterboarding. It was pretty disturbing. I am pretty sure it was >> even posted to this list. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Loathe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "CF-Community" <cf-community@houseoffusion.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 2:00 PM >> Subject: Re: [Obama] Client sent me this ... >> >> >>> Do you have an actual argument or just a "feeling"? >>> >>> Todd wrote: >>>> I call bullshit on this. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Loathe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "CF-Community" <cf-community@houseoffusion.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:36 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Obama] Client sent me this ... >>>> >>>> >>>>> Water boarding is not torture. >>>>> >>>>> Cutting off fingers, electrocution, burning, beating, kicking, these are >>>>> torture. >>>>> >>>>> Or to expand on the argument, while PHYSICAL torture is and should be >>>>> banned, psychological torture isn't and shouldn't be. >>>>> >>>>> I mean the cops can use a lot of methods that are construed as >>>>> psychological torture, but we'll prohibit our soldiers from doing so? >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:254216 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
