Have you even been in the military?If you had then you know you can't 
treat this like a software project or construction project. There is a 
saying in the military, every battle plan is good until the first shots 
are fired. Combat is not something you can apply this shit to. It is 
dynamic, ever changing. Hell, in Desert Storm, Gen Schwartzkopf had a 
plan that ended up changing at the last minute. My unit along with the 
rest of Seventh Corps had to make an early turn toward Kuwait because 
the Iraqi's were retreating faster than we had anticipated, and we need 
to move up there to be a blocking force. You think you can just get on 
the radio and in a matter of minutes, tens of thousands of soldiers, 
trucks, tanks and helicopters can just suddenly turn? It does not happen 
that way.

OIF is even more dynamic due to the ever changing tactics of the 
insurgency. There are goals for this conflict and they have been stated 
before on this list. The ultimate goal is the have a new government 
installed and running the country, a military that is capable both 
tactically and technically to defend their country, and a police force 
that can keep law and order in the cities. We have teams that are 
specially designed to get these things done, it is just not going to 
happen over night. As Loath pointed out, goals have been achieved and 
more will follow. So stop trying to assume that wars are run like 
corporations. They have not, are not nor will they ever be run like a 
corporation.

Better yet, instead of assuming these things, head on down to your local 
recruiter, enlist and then let us know what you think. I am sure you 
will change your mind. But since we all know this will never happen, 
stop assuming.

Oh, and if I don't respond until later on tonight your your response, 
that is because I am working and don't usually get to read my email 
until after 5:00 PM CST. I am not ducking the issue.



Bruce

Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> I'll tell you what I'm looking for (and what any american should be
> able to rattle off in 45 seconds)
>
> (1.) A US troop deployment in Iraq is in the US's strategic interest
> because [why it is]
>
> (2.) Therefore the US troop mission is to [mission goes here]
>
> (3.) To accomplish this we're going to:
>      (3.1) [Objective 1]
>      (3.2) [Objective 2]
>      (3.3) [Objective 3]
> [mutually exclusive, but collective exhaustive objectives go there]
>
> (4.) The following principles will be responsible for successful
> delivery of each objective and the accurate reporting of progress:
>      (4.1) [obj 1 owner, milestones, timeline]
>      (4.2) [obj 2 owner, milestones, timeline]
>      (4.3) [obj 3 owner, milestones, timeline]
>
> (5.) Progressional success will be defined by the delivery each
> milestone.  Mission success when occur when all objectives are
> complete.  Success, as defined by the existing timeline, will be on
> [date]
>
> You're confusing the fog of battle with good management which
> shouldn't be foggy and applies for mission no matter what the
> industry.
>
>   

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