Ok, we did huge amounts of damage to AQ in Afghanistan. They did move on to Iraq, and we hurt them there too, however; they did more damage to themselves by getting involved in the sectarian violence and going after other Muslims.
I agree that we need to get involved in Pakistan, however the internal political environment there makes it a very difficult environment to operate in. Musharaff would likely face a revolt if he allowed large numbers of Americans at this point. The ability to begin draw downs in Iraq is tied directly to the surge, there is no denying it. In my opinion we have crossed the apex in Iraq and will see them taking over more of the security role internally, freeing us to increase deployments in and around Afghanistan. Gruss Gott wrote: >> gg wrote: >> You're confusing the fog of battle with > > I meant: > > You're confusing the fog of a battle with the reasons for, and > management of, going to war. > > And if you look at Iraq, we're not at war. This is so, because we're > simply there right now to provide security for the Iraqi population. > That's not war, that's security. > > Now you might argue that we're at war with AQ, but that's not a > nationalist cause, it's an "asymmetrical" movement and thus impossible > to have a "war" with. That is, you can fight the same enemy across > many countries all of whom we are not at war with. > > As an example, AQ has been seriously injured by the US invasion and > occupation of ... Afghanistan NOT IRAQ. > > However AQ is reconstituting it's command-and-control in Pakistan and > is about 1 year away from the same level of command freedom they had > in 2000. > > So, we need to hit Pakistan > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:264279 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5