On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No - he's clearly saying that even if it was a bald-faced lie, enough > people > have now said it. Which makes it true. Because anything that's repeated > enough must have some value. > > Essentially it's the same complex lie being using by the anti-evolutionists > and the anti-vaccinationists: > > 1) Create and then publicize an outlandish statement. > > 2) With that statement create a political and/or social controversy where > none existed. > > 3) Claim that the existence of the political and/or social controversy > proves that the claim should be taken seriously factually or > scientifically. > > 4) When the claim is ignored factually or scientifically (you know, because > it's a lie) claim that some entrenched establishment is "suppressing the > truth" (usually for some tenuously-linked monetary gain). I don't believe > that we've made it here with the lie about Obama's voting record. > > It's a self-fulfillment fallacy: There must be truth in this controversy > we've invented because there's a controversy. Really just a complex, more > directly devious version of the Argument from Consensus, the "Bandwagon" > fallacy. > I know you were making the point for something else...but man...that was an AWESOME analysis of the intelligent design movement. Bravo! -- Once in awhile you get shown the light In the strangest of places if you look at it right ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:264518 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5