Wait, maybe I said the wrong acronym.  Abstinence, B-something about
few partners and Contraceptive.

I was lamenting the teaching of only the "A" part, and saying that the
proof is in the pudding, and B+C are required to really tackle the
problem.

Sorry for the mis-queue, there; I always mess up the acronym for the
"real deal" (obviously because of the "B" == monogamy/few partners).

Maybe I have them out of order too.

But anyways, yeah, I'm not stupid enough to proclaim something like
Abstinence Only works better than being honest or whatever.

Heh.  I said stupid.

I also wonder if pushing the AbO is akin to murder, as was posited by
that group I mentioned.  Seems not too much a stretch, although not
1st degree.

Crazy that we're so backwards in a time when we can be so forwards,
and in a Country like the US of A.

-- 
Freud's view is that all love is sexual in its origin or its basis.
Even those loves which do not appear to be sexual or erotic have a
sexual root or core. They are all sublimations of the sexual instinct.
Mortimer Adler


On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Larry Lyons wrote:
>>> When is the last time there was a story about this issue anywhere in
>>> the national media? Anyone?
>>
>>I could dig up several of my posts that talk about it, but who really
>>reads all that stuff anyways.
>>
>>What bugged me was exporting that mentality to other countries, like
>>Africa and whatnot, where the ABC's have been shown to work.
>
> Care to cite any studies that have been published in reputable scientific 
> journals? All the ones cited by the fundies seem to include a contraception 
> component that's lacking in US Abstinence only programs.
>
>>
>>Remember that group claiming Bush helped kill thousands (or more) by
>>promoting AbsOn?
>>
>>This *is* mainstream for people who are sick of our country being
>>fucked up and half of our people acting like it ain't.
>
> Again if you're claiming that it works, then show some supporting data. And 
> not just propaganda from some group with an agenda, but I'll settle for one 
> study, just one published in one of the following journals:
> American Journal of Public Health
> Journal of Publish Heath
> American Journal of Epidemiology
> Epidemiology
> Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health
>
> The idea is that when you remove the ideology from Abstinence Only sex 
> education you find out that all too often its ineffective, or worse results 
> in higher rates of STD's or teenage pregnancy.
>
>
> 

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