see Benny, see what you started! <grin> Erika married to an uncircumcised man for a better tomorrow. ------------------------------------------------------------
>>|-----Original Message----- >>|From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>|Sent: 02 April 2002 20:00 >>|To: CF-Community >>|Subject: Re: Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)) >>| >>| >>|>> >This is the one I don't believe. Put someone in the cold >>|and then slice >>|>off >>|>> >the skin on the tips of their fingers and see which they are >>|more upset >>|>> >about. >>|>> We're talking about a baby here, not an adult. If you were >>|present to hear >>|>the baby cry you'd probably agree with me. >>|> >>|>You're not suggesting that babies don't feel pain like adults >>|do, are you? >>|I'm saying that All pain is the same to them as their nervous >>|system has no ability to distinguish at the time (8 days old in >>|Judaism). As a side note, my family was once a foster family and >>|had a child that was circumcised at the age of 4. He didn't cry >>|at all during the procedure. I also know someone who converted >>|to Judaism. He had it done and he was in his 20's. I'd say that >>|the pain is about comprable to that of an ear pierce. (when >>|Judith and Hinda Tova get their ears pierced I'll listen in and >>|report back). >>| >>|>OK .. here is some video of a circumcision. That baby sounds like it's >>|>doing a little more than complaining of the cold. >>|> >>|>http://www.cirp.org/library/procedure/plastibell/circ.mov >>|I'll have to look at this when I get home as I can't see it at >>|the moment. What I'm saying is that my experience, as someone >>|being at a number of these events and standing anywhere from 3 >>|feet to 10 feet away is that the screams are basically the same. >>|I will be sure to make a specific note of it the next one I go to. >>| >>|>> >You can't convince me that that doesn't hurt like hell. If >>|it's not that >>|>> >big of a deal, why bother giving anesthetic to adults? If >>|being cold is >>|>> >worse, then the adults shouldn't have anything to complain >>|about. Sure >>|>> >would save on the medical bill .... >>|>> Never said it didn't. My wife stubs her toe and she screams and hops >>|>around thinking its broken (she has a low pain tolerance). A baby had NO >>|>pain tolerance. Any discomfort is pain to it. Is it equipped to tell the >>|>difference between the two pains or the degree? nope. >>|> >>|>I also don't believe this. Doctors used to think babies didn't >>|feel pain at >>|>all. This is thinking had doctors even performing open heart surgery on >>|>babies without anesthetic. Now they know that babies have a >>|fully developed >>|>nervouse system that functions just as well as an adult's. >>|They can tell >>|>the difference between degrees of discomfort. >>|I have to disagree. This ability comes in time but a newborn >>|does not have it. >>| >>| ______________________________________________________________________ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-community@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
