the plan is always to retrofit, every time they ask for a bailout, and
to my understanding they always fail to do so. How many second chances
should they get? I say take the short-term pain and deal with the
actual problem -- those companies do not know how to build something
people want to buy.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bush isn't going to bail them out? Bush has already given them $25
> billion. They are asking for $25 billion more. And it is actually a
> loan, not asset purchase as in the case of the finance industry.
>
> Now should they get $25 billion more? I'm not sure. I think that would
> depend on a plan to turn things around. If the money went to
> retrofitting plants to produce more fuel efficient vehicles and
> pumping money into projects that might give them a leg up on foreign
> competition while saving jobs here and contributing to national goals
> of energy independence and greenhouse gas emission reductions...sure.
>
> I don't know what the "plan" is though, so I can't say.
>
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> GM, Ford, and Chrysler are all on life support right now. Should we save
>> them or let them go through bankruptcy?
>>
>> The way I see it, these companies need to go through BK so they can get a
>> fresh start without the albatross of the bad financial decisions of the past
>> hanging around their necks. Bush isn't going to bail them out, but Obama and
>> the Democratic Congress just might.
>>
>> Will a bailout help, or will it merely delay the inevitable death of
>> companies that are burdened with obligations they can no longer afford?
>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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