But is death/killing an end or a beginning ? Say for example that I am a Catholic and I BELIEVE and live my life according to the book then a Muslam who BELIEVES and lives his life according the book kills me and himself in a suicide attack: Who will go to Heaven first ?
He thinks that he will as he BELIEVES that he is the martyr, thus killing me and himself is actually doing him a favor, he will get close to his God faster. I think that I will because I BELIEVE that I am the martyr, thus killing me is actually doing me a favor, I'll get close to my God faster. Vincent... -----Message d'origine----- De : Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Envoyé : Tuesday, April 16, 2002 10:47 AM À : CF-Community Objet : RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link) > As for the righteous indignation Jesus displayed. As we know > from the OT (or Torah), God has often displayed his wrath at > those who reject him or reject his commands. Displayed His wrath? Hang on, he KILLED the whole population of the Earth apart from 8 people... EIGHT PEOPLE... That's one HELL of a wrath! (no pun intended) - if Jesus took any guidance from His Father, then the money lenders got off lightly - not only would I read into the section that he physically removed them (with violence) but He was lenient compared to what He could have done if He had followed His Father's example The Bible is meant to teach forgiveness, but not only does it not do this, is shows where God just decided to kill a people because they either didn't believe in Him, or were violent or depraved... What example does this teach His followers? From what I understand, the terrorists who kill people "in the name of God" are just following His example - he has shown that He can kill whoever He wants to, whenever He wants to... So if you are doing things in God's name, then you can quite happily kill people... This is how the Crusades came about - they basically went on a killing spree of those who didn't follow the right faith... If God can do it, and the Pope is the mouth of God on Earth, then wouldn't it follow that if His Holiness said "Go kill those people", then God is telling you to kill those people... If we are meant to follow the word of God because he is Just and Good - then killing people who do not follow your religion is therefore Just and Good - doesn't that follow? Just be glad that none of the terrorists have nuclear weapons - if they did they could hit the polar ice caps, melt the ice and produce the second flood, purging the Earth of the faithless - even those who do have faith as He did this with Noah... Noah's family can't have been the only people who believed in God at that time... So, melting the ice caps will do the same thing - can you imagine them building another Ark and trying this? Philip Arnold Technical Director Certified ColdFusion Developer ASP Multimedia Limited T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133 F: +44 (0)20 8686 7911 An ISO9001 registered company. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. ********************************************************************** ______________________________________________________________________ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-community@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists