oo. I don't think I can even begin to answer this. The theory appears to be that by dropping her in a vat of shit she comes out stronger somehow? I repeat, this was one of the best schools in town.
Bad choices? Well, gee, sticking up for a developmentally disabled kid who is being bullied is a *good* choice and I was proud of her for making it. I told the school so. Didn't stop them from suspending her, but whatever. By then she was beginning to see my point. Mean Girls aside, when stupidity is formalized into a system that protects itself, you are not going to change it unless you are willing to sacrifice all your time to doing so. Yeah, she made a wrong choice. She decided to go to high school to see what this socialization stuff was about But, fuckface, she is not a dropout. Dropouts don't go to college. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Eric Roberts <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > As a child in public schools, I knew people that thought heroin was cool, > but I never did heroin because I had the sense to realize that it is a > dangerous drug that I shouldn't get involved with. I really don't remember > if my mother (I was even raised in a single parent home until I was 10 when > my mother remarried...my father abandoned us when I was 5) even had the drug > talk with me or not...but I don't think that was my influencing factor. > Even later in life when I did get into some drugs, I never had the desire to > do coke or heroin or crack or anything like that. We didn't have any gangs > in my school, so I can't say that I knew anyone that thought tagging was > cool in my school...but I could say that I thought it was pretty stupid. I > did know some people though other venues (Boy Scouts actually) that > did...and I thought that they were pretty stupid. What public schools > taught me is people do stupid shit but I also saw people who got involved in > things like that and then got away from it and excelled, which taught me > that people can rise above their circumstances and excel despite them. Many > people believe that being smart or technical, or a history freak, or > whatever is weird or is acting too white. You are always going to have > people like that...but it is up to the child (and the parents enforcing good > learning attitudes) to rise above that...just like in real life where it's a > dog eat dog world and the only person that is responsible for you is you. > > I always loved history, I was in Spanish club (and took 3 years of Spanish > in HS), and was in soccer, wrestling, and track throughout HS. I stood up > for people and was not punished for it. Maybe the problem is with your > school and you do have the power to change that...the school board is > elected. Vote someone else in if you find there is a problem. Plus you can > go to your state board if your complaints fall on deaf ears. Dropping out of > the system is just that...dropping out. And before it is asked...yes I have > children. A 15 year old (who lives with her mother and is attending public > HS) and soon to be 5 year old. One of the reasons I just moved is because I > didn't want my 5 year old to go to the school system where we used to live, > so we planned on moving to a better area when out lease expired anyway. > > I just don't think that homeschooling is the answer. You can't shelter your > children their whole life from negative influences. They do have to learn > to make their own mistakes and learn that there are consequences to their > actions. Sounds like your daughter made some bad choices and hung out with > the wrong people. I hope she learned from those mistakes. I would also > look at where, as a parent, I failed to get her the information she needed > to make better choices so that she didn't get into that situation to begin > with. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 5:13 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling..... > > > ok well... if you think all that is just fine, no wonder you are in > favor of public education. I can assure you that nobody she associates > with now thinks heroin is cool, or that there is no point in learning > stuff, but it took her almost two years of de-schooling and the right > boyfriend and one HELL of a lot of grey hair to get her there. I am > just glad she had the sense to come out ok. > > By the way, that was one of the "best" schools in town. I think it is > normally ranked #2 out of about a dozen high schools. > > Also, nobody she talked to *before* she went back to high school > thought that tagging was a good idea or that it was ridiculous to know > the details on elizabethan intrigues. > > ::shrug:: > > Also by the way, she starts college in the fall. > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Eric Roberts > <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >> >> Sounds like real life...though some of those things sounds like common >> things to kids...like thinking certain things are weird. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:37 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling..... >> >> >> Ha, public school does not, in my experience, bring much to the table. >> I'm sure I'll be flamed for that, but here is what my daughter learned >> at a public school: >> >> yes you can be suspended for defending the developmentally disabled >> student in your art class >> >> smoking is cool >> >> adults are allowed to take things from you and not give them back >> >> tagging is a good way to express yourself >> >> It doesn't matter how well you read, because the class will be taught >> at a 6th grade level anyway >> >> parents are clueless >> >> so-and-so knows the number to get heroin delivered >> >> Knowing anything about history is wierd >> >> If you have ever been a champion at something, you do not want to admit it >> >> Don't get me started. >> >> Dana >> - >> >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Jerry Johnson <jmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Quick survey here. >>> >>> How many people had parents that ADDED homework to your list? >>> Who taught them subjects at the kitchen table, usually years before the >>> schools did? >>> Who took them to the library a couple of times a week, and provided a > full >>> set of encyclopedias at home (pre cdrom and internet)? >>> >>> When I hear about ONLY homeschooling, I usually feel bad for the kids, > who >>> miss out on all the things that public school DOES bring to the table. > And >> I >>> cannot imagine not getting part-time home schooling to fill in the >> corners, >>> and test to make sure it is all sticking. >>> >>> Just wondering if my experience was normal (as I always assumed), or not >> the >>> norm. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Matt Williams <mgw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >I don't think that homeschooling should be legal, unless you are a >>>> teacher. >>>> > >>>> >Eric >>>> >>>> >>>> Right, because you can't teach anything unless you've been taught how to >>>> teach it. It's a wonder that homeschoolers can even read. >>>> /end sarcasm >>>> >>>> You know nothing of homeschool teachers (moms and dads) until you've > seen >>>> it in action. Schools and universities advertise low student to teacher >>>> ratios as a plus. It's pretty hard to beat one on one. Some higher >> education >>>> may be helpful if you are teaching Calculus, but a MAEd is not necessary >> for >>>> teaching K-12 curriculum to your own children. >>>> >>>> -Matt W >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:316146 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
