I asked for yours because you don't seem to have one, and considering your next move that seems rather hypocritical. I have extensive experience with many homeschool groups, religious and not, in quite a few states -- Texas, Ohio, New Mexico, West Virginia, Michigan and Maryland off the top of my head.
I don't feel the need to fish around in my resources for the benefit of a pompous pontificator who can't be bothered to back up the claim he wants me to refute. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I simply asked for the source so I could judge for myself. If you have > the cite I'd simply like to see it otherwise for all I know its from > some dim fantasy world. > > You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. You are not entitled > however to your own facts. > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> you slander a community I've been part of for more than a decade in... >> oh at least half a dozen states, then demand that I prove your >> prejudices are ill-founded. >> >> whatever. >> >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> why the hostility? I do not think that my comment merited a such a response. >>> >>> something pissing you off in real life? >>> >>> Your response is not your typical behavior on this list. >>> >>> If not then as far as I am concerned you can go take a flying... my >>> life is too short to have to deal with that sort of foetid and well >>> ripened manure. >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hah, you blather endlessly about your preconceptions and then bewail >>>> MY biases? You were the first to characterize the group -- let's see >>>> YOUR souces, and I insist, given that it's you, on a peer-reviewed >>>> journal article. >>>> >>>> What the hell. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> interesting numbers where did you get them? pull them from something >>>>> that agrees with your own biases? >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Bullshit. It's perhaps a quarter of homeschoolers who are religious, >>>>>> Larry. They are merely the most vocal. >>>>>> >>>>>> Scott, try Ambleside and if that doesn't look like your cup of tea try >>>>>> the google term "umbrella school." Or, there is Calvert, but they are >>>>>> pricy. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My sympathies. I would think that given the landscape, you'd be doing >>>>>>> good to find anything that's not religious in the home schooling >>>>>>> market. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ...is finding quality, secular curriculum. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My wife and I have been looking into homeschool programs that actually >>>>>>>> give the children diplomas and transcripts. Unfortunately, since a >>>>>>>> large portion of those who homeschool do so for religious reasons (we >>>>>>>> do not, BTW), most of these programs have curricula that are heavily >>>>>>>> religious. This has not bee a huge bone of contention with me as most >>>>>>>> of the programs allow you to substitute a curriculum for each subject. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yesterday that changed. We visited the main office for one of these >>>>>>>> programs. Up until yesterday, we were impressed with their reputation, >>>>>>>> cost and the fact that they were fairly liberal in what you could >>>>>>>> substitute. For grammar school children, the only subjects you could >>>>>>>> nit substitute was English and Religion. I was cool with that. >>>>>>>> However, we were then told that for high school you cannot substitute >>>>>>>> English, Religion and History. I immediately went and started looking >>>>>>>> at the High School history books. They had titles like 'Christ the >>>>>>>> King, Lord of History' and 'Christ and the Americas'. The first book I >>>>>>>> picked up had chapters named 'Abraham' and 'Moses' - and the 'Moses' >>>>>>>> chapter was twice as long as each chapter devoted to 'Ancient Greece' >>>>>>>> and 'Ancient Rome'. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The main biology books were different volumes of a series titled >>>>>>>> 'Exploring Creation'. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was disgusted with all the religious drivel that was included in >>>>>>>> these books - and was immediately turned off to this program (We had >>>>>>>> looked at it because of the ones with a good reputation that are >>>>>>>> accredited, this one was Catholic) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My wife is a devote Catholic, I am not. We have discussed raising our >>>>>>>> children Catholic, but these references in a history book concerned >>>>>>>> even her. I have no issues with the children learning about >>>>>>>> Catholicism, but to have those beliefs brought into subjects like >>>>>>>> history and science is where I draw the line. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, now we must continue the search for a good program, like the ones >>>>>>>> we have looked at, but that do not cram the religion down the kids >>>>>>>> throats in every subject. There has got to be a happy medium >>>>>>>> somewhere.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> </rant> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Scott Stroz >>>>>>>> --------------- >>>>>>>> The DOM is retarded. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://xkcd.com/386/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? 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