I have no idea what you are talking about. My comment was fairly simple
"interesting numbers where did you get them? pull them from something
that agrees with your own biases? "

While "pull them from something that agrees with your own biases? "
appears to be a bit over the top, it nowhere near justifies your going
ballistic. As I said all I wanted was your source so I could judge for
myself.

As far as I can see, you're either unable or unwilling to provide a
source your your numbers. So what do I conclude from that, aside from
your uncalled for b*tchiness?

So it appears that since you're ignoring the original comment and
appear to be enjoying your temper tantrum,  as far as I am concerned
this discussion has ended.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I asked for yours because you don't seem to have one, and considering
> your next move that seems rather hypocritical. I have extensive
> experience with many homeschool groups, religious and not, in quite a
> few states -- Texas, Ohio, New Mexico, West Virginia, Michigan and
> Maryland off the top of my head.
>
> I don't feel the need to fish around in my resources for the benefit
> of a pompous pontificator who can't be bothered to back up the claim
> he wants me to refute.
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I simply asked for the source so I could judge for myself. If you have
>> the cite I'd simply like to see it otherwise for all I know its from
>> some dim fantasy world.
>>
>> You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. You are not entitled
>> however to your own facts.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> you slander a community I've been part of for more than a decade in...
>>> oh at least half a dozen states, then demand that I prove your
>>> prejudices are ill-founded.
>>>
>>> whatever.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> why the hostility? I do not think that my comment merited a such a 
>>>> response.
>>>>
>>>> something pissing you off in real life?
>>>>
>>>> Your response is not your typical behavior on this list.
>>>>
>>>> If not then as far as I am concerned you can go take a flying... my
>>>> life is too short to have to deal with that sort of foetid and well
>>>> ripened manure.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hah, you blather endlessly about your preconceptions and then bewail
>>>>> MY biases? You were the first to characterize the group -- let's see
>>>>> YOUR souces, and I insist, given that it's you, on a peer-reviewed
>>>>> journal article.
>>>>>
>>>>> What the hell.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> interesting numbers where did you get them? pull them from something
>>>>>> that agrees with your own biases?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit. It's perhaps a quarter of homeschoolers who are religious,
>>>>>>> Larry. They are merely the most vocal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Scott, try Ambleside and if that doesn't look like your cup of tea try
>>>>>>> the google term "umbrella school." Or, there is Calvert, but they are
>>>>>>> pricy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Larry C. Lyons 
>>>>>>> <larrycly...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My sympathies. I would think that given the landscape, you'd be doing
>>>>>>>> good to find anything that's not religious in the home schooling
>>>>>>>> market.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...is finding quality, secular curriculum.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My wife and I have been looking into homeschool programs that actually
>>>>>>>>> give the children diplomas and transcripts. Unfortunately, since a
>>>>>>>>> large portion of those who homeschool do so for religious reasons (we
>>>>>>>>> do not, BTW), most of these programs have curricula that are heavily
>>>>>>>>> religious. This has not bee a huge bone of contention with me as most
>>>>>>>>> of the programs allow you to substitute a curriculum for each subject.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yesterday that changed. We visited the main office for one of these
>>>>>>>>> programs. Up until yesterday, we were impressed with their reputation,
>>>>>>>>> cost and the fact that they were fairly liberal in what you could
>>>>>>>>> substitute. For grammar school children, the only subjects you could
>>>>>>>>> nit substitute was English and Religion. I was cool with that.
>>>>>>>>> However, we were then told that for high school you cannot substitute
>>>>>>>>> English, Religion and History. I immediately went and started looking
>>>>>>>>> at the High School history books. They had titles like 'Christ the
>>>>>>>>> King, Lord of History' and 'Christ and the Americas'. The first book I
>>>>>>>>> picked up had chapters named 'Abraham' and 'Moses' - and the 'Moses'
>>>>>>>>> chapter was twice as long as each chapter devoted to 'Ancient Greece'
>>>>>>>>> and 'Ancient Rome'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The main biology books were different volumes of a series titled
>>>>>>>>> 'Exploring Creation'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was disgusted with all the religious drivel that was included in
>>>>>>>>> these books - and was immediately turned off to this program (We had
>>>>>>>>> looked at it because of the ones with a good reputation that are
>>>>>>>>> accredited, this one was Catholic)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My wife is a devote Catholic, I am not. We have discussed raising our
>>>>>>>>> children Catholic, but these references in a history book concerned
>>>>>>>>> even her. I have no issues with the children learning about
>>>>>>>>> Catholicism, but to have those beliefs brought into subjects like
>>>>>>>>> history and science is where I draw the line.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, now we must continue the search for a good program, like the ones
>>>>>>>>> we have looked at, but that do not cram the religion down the kids
>>>>>>>>> throats in every subject.  There has got to be a happy medium
>>>>>>>>> somewhere....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> </rant>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Scott Stroz
>>>>>>>>> ---------------
>>>>>>>>> The DOM is retarded.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://xkcd.com/386/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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