good. I take it then that you support penalties for the attempt to evade the Freedom of Information Act?
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I am not a conservative, but I understand you have a very narrow view > of the world and everyone must fit into strictly defined categories > and fit into rigidly structured cubby-holes, so confusion on your part > is expected. > > I am all about personal responsibility. Like standing up for the fact > that you committed a crime and not trying to place blame on the > victim. > > On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Eric Roberts > <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >> >> It's called negligence. And here I thought you were a conservative and all >> about personal responsibility... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:19 AM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! >> >> >> So, there you go. You do indeed support blaming the victim. And here I >> thought you were a liberal. >> >> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Eric Roberts >> <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >>> >>> I do think there should be a penalty assessed when you get hacked and it >> is >>> because you have a weak password. Imagine how many IT headaches that >> would >>> solve. >>> >>> I think the moral of the story is that if you are going to do something >> that >>> is illegal...make sure you use a strong passwords and a good encryption >>> scheme....or at least one good enough to stop a teenager ;-) >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:36 AM >>> To: cf-community >>> Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! >>> >>> >>> Well, kind of. You could say the lid on the mailbox is akin to a weak >>> password on your email. However it's kind of a moot point. >>> >>> The common argument here, and one which you seem to be parroting is the >>> "don't be surprised if..." argument. This I think loses the plot a bit >> here >>> as I don't think anyone is arguing about being surprised about the email >>> getting hacked with a weak-ass challenge response. However whether a turn >> of >>> events is surprising or unexpected doesn't make the crime any more or less >> a >>> crime. >>> >>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Eric Roberts < >>> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> That's even a bad analogy. The mail box isn't locked and cant be (or how >>>> else does mail get in), while your email is supposed to be secured. If >>> you >>>> want to stick to the snail mail analogy, then maybe a PO box and you >> leave >>>> your key hanging on the box at the post office. But again, if you don't >>>> secure thing and you leave it wide open, don't be surprised when someone >>>> comes it. Not leaving it secured is akin to putting a neon sign over it >>>> and >>>> saying come on in...especially if you are a public figure. >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] >>>> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:54 AM >>>> To: cf-community >>>> Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't really think comparing it to breaking into a house is a very good >>>> analogy. I think it's probably more accurate to equate it to taking mail >>>> out >>>> of someone's mail box. I believe this is a felony. And if someone did it >>>> you >>>> would blame the victim by saying "well the mailbox wasn't even locked." >>>> >>>> I think it sucks that some kid who guesses a password gets time, but it's >>> a >>>> crime and a massive, premeditated invasion of privacy. We need to protect >>>> that privacy, especially now as we're losing more and more of it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:317293 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
