Sure, as long as the evidence is acquired legally. On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: > > good. I take it then that you support penalties for the attempt to > evade the Freedom of Information Act? > > On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I am not a conservative, but I understand you have a very narrow view >> of the world and everyone must fit into strictly defined categories >> and fit into rigidly structured cubby-holes, so confusion on your part >> is expected. >> >> I am all about personal responsibility. Like standing up for the fact >> that you committed a crime and not trying to place blame on the >> victim. >> >> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Eric Roberts >> <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >>> >>> It's called negligence. And here I thought you were a conservative and all >>> about personal responsibility... >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:19 AM >>> To: cf-community >>> Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! >>> >>> >>> So, there you go. You do indeed support blaming the victim. And here I >>> thought you were a liberal. >>> >>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Eric Roberts >>> <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> I do think there should be a penalty assessed when you get hacked and it >>> is >>>> because you have a weak password. Imagine how many IT headaches that >>> would >>>> solve. >>>> >>>> I think the moral of the story is that if you are going to do something >>> that >>>> is illegal...make sure you use a strong passwords and a good encryption >>>> scheme....or at least one good enough to stop a teenager ;-) >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] >>>> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:36 AM >>>> To: cf-community >>>> Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! >>>> >>>> >>>> Well, kind of. You could say the lid on the mailbox is akin to a weak >>>> password on your email. However it's kind of a moot point. >>>> >>>> The common argument here, and one which you seem to be parroting is the >>>> "don't be surprised if..." argument. This I think loses the plot a bit >>> here >>>> as I don't think anyone is arguing about being surprised about the email >>>> getting hacked with a weak-ass challenge response. However whether a turn >>> of >>>> events is surprising or unexpected doesn't make the crime any more or less >>> a >>>> crime. >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Eric Roberts < >>>> ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> That's even a bad analogy. The mail box isn't locked and cant be (or how >>>>> else does mail get in), while your email is supposed to be secured. If >>>> you >>>>> want to stick to the snail mail analogy, then maybe a PO box and you >>> leave >>>>> your key hanging on the box at the post office. But again, if you don't >>>>> secure thing and you leave it wide open, don't be surprised when someone >>>>> comes it. Not leaving it secured is akin to putting a neon sign over it >>>>> and >>>>> saying come on in...especially if you are a public figure. >>>>> >>>>> Eric >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Medic [mailto:hofme...@gmail.com] >>>>> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:54 AM >>>>> To: cf-community >>>>> Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't really think comparing it to breaking into a house is a very good >>>>> analogy. I think it's probably more accurate to equate it to taking mail >>>>> out >>>>> of someone's mail box. I believe this is a felony. And if someone did it >>>>> you >>>>> would blame the victim by saying "well the mailbox wasn't even locked." >>>>> >>>>> I think it sucks that some kid who guesses a password gets time, but it's >>>> a >>>>> crime and a massive, premeditated invasion of privacy. We need to protect >>>>> that privacy, especially now as we're losing more and more of it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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