Go for...I am in agreement with you and I think it would be fascinating to hear from someone with actual experience in it...
-----Original Message----- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 2:09 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Is America wising up and getting fedup of Glenn Beck? I won't bother the list with it all, since I've been over it before, but having done evolutionary biology research in the past, I'd be willing to answer your questions on the subject and explain why irreducible complexity is garbage, why Adam and Eve didn't have to be single individuals, how life can arise without divine intervention and how speciation occurs and has been observed in both the lab and in the wild. Judah On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Kris Sisk <ks...@gckschools.com> wrote: > >> Shouldn't you be looking for 6,000 year old dinosaur fossils? > > Heh, right. Because I believe the Bible I must also believe there were dinosaurs 6000 years ago....get real. I realize you have a very jaded view of me because I admitted to matching some definitions of a fundamentalist and believe in intelligent design, but I'm not stupid. In fact, let's just cut off all future jabs at me like this at the knees right now. > > What I believe: > Adam and Eve were real. Even without the Bible to name them at some point in history there had to have been one man and one woman from whom we all came. Incidently that's true even if you believe in random chance evolution. > > The earth was made in six days, but not neccessarily six 24 hour periods. A day in Biblical writing is not always a day as we think of them, especially when dealing with times outside of the lifetime of the one being addressed or doing the writing. > > Life as we know it can not possibly be the consequence of random chance. A single celled organism is a nanomachine with hundreds of moving parts configured with a quadrary programming language. We're infinately more complex than that. That kind of stuff just doesn't happen randomly. > > Did it happen literally and exactly as described in Genesis? I believe it's probably an approximation that was severely dumbed down for the a society that hadn't even considered the science physics yet. > > Carbon dating is not perfectly accurate. We know that volcanic erruptions can throw off it's accuracy and we also know that at several points in geological history the Earth was littered with active volcanos. That said it's still the most effective way to get the age of ancient objects we have. The 4 billion year mark that geologists give us, while probably not right, is probably much closer to the mark than the 6000 year mark that people get by going through Biblical geneologies. > > Evolution does exist. Dogs evolved out of wolves, short beaked finches and long beaked finches have a common ancestor, etc etc. However I don't believe that an entirely new species could evolve out of an existing one without divine guidance. The mutations between the two species would have to be massive and come very close together. > > I've never seen a plausible argument against irreducible complexity. Even if the parts of the cellular mechanisms evolved in other parts of the cell they would still need to come together in a single generation, which would be a much larger jump than natural selection allows for. If there's another arugment against it I've never seen it. It seems to me that the argument has been dismissed by the scientific community at large based solely on who presented it without being given a chance to stand on it's own merits. That's bad science. > > Now I spend a whole lot of time figuring out how science and my religion can co-exist. I do this because I can not logically accept the possiblilty of such an ordered universe as ours without God and my own religion makes more sense to me than any other I've come across. I could get into the more spiritual reasons that I choose to follow Christ as opposed to Muhammad or Buhda or any of a dozen other religions, but that would be outside the scope. > > Frankly I don't appreciate the attacks at my intelligence just because I have a different world view than you do. You seem to be fond of them. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:319098 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
