I used to wrok with a guy who was a very successful doctor. Great guy, hard worker, but he used to drone on about being held back by 'the man' (yes, he used to say 'the man'). So, for me, that would be a third kind of person. One who works hard, but still complains about being oppressed.
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Sisk, Kris <ks...@gckschools.com> wrote: > > Wow...are you really that naÄve? > > I know two types of black people. I know some who wine about being kept down > by 'the man' and never put any effort into making themselves a success. If > you call them on it they try to tell you there's no point in even trying > because being black means they have no chance anyway. In the end it's there > refusal to try that dooms them. They're also some of the most racist people > I've ever met (call them on that and you get called all kinds of nasty names). > > The other blacks I know, who don't waste their energy complaining about being > oppressed, put no more effort or less into their careers than anyone else and > are just as successful as there white peers. > > Granted this is just the people I know and can observe for myself, but it > seems to me that the ones being held back are being held back only by > themselves. There is no oppression of blacks by society anymore. The reason > we can't ignore it is because there are people who throw our supposed > oppression of minorities in our collective face constantly. If there were any > truth to that idea we would be following news about Hillary Clinton's > presidency. > > -----Original Message----- > From: trish simon [mailto:trishsimo...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:56 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks > Her Foot In Her Mouth. > > > Racism...LOL...how many emails on this one subject, and the target > being "Blacks" (one of many minorities in America)? How many poster > who responded to the original subject has apologized for jumping on > the bandwagon to criticize and attack this woman, and the NAACP? How > many posters are outraged that the "media" has again deceived us, even > the White House did not investigate the facts before attacking this > woman? > > Just when I thought it could not get any worse, someone provided a > list of "successful Blacks" (not sure why Tiger Woods was on the > list), and then concluded with, "if there is a systemic oppression of > Blacks, these men and women would not have had the opportunity to > achieve what they have." > > I dare you to have this discussion with a "real" person of > color...reality is not as pretty. > > > On 7/22/10, Sam <sammyc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Race is a real issue and the Obama admin will make sure of that. >> In this day and age when blacks have achieved so much this admin >> spends so much time calling whites racists. That's bringing us back to >> a 60's mentality. You call someone an evil name often enough they >> might end up not liking you. That still won't make them racist, >> anti-bigot maybe, but the charge will still be racism. Can we stop the >> racism nonsense? >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com> wrote: >>> I want to see a bigger focus on economics, on class, on structural >>> inequalities in the system that aligns big business with big >>> government to the detriment of 90% of the country. I think that there >>> is more that we can find in common than that which may divide us. But >>> I think that it is a mistake to pretend that race isn't a real issue >>> anymore and that the attempt to try and take race out of the equation >>> ends up pushing away a bunch of people who otherwise ought to be right >>> there in the fight with you. >>> >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:323466 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm