I'd like to see some examples of this whitewashing Vivec...I have seen far too many movies where the good guy was black or Asian or where the bad guy was white...in fact...most of the movies I can think of off the top of my head had bad guys as whites regardless of the race of the protagonist and quite of few of them had black protagonists.
I have to agree with Kris' statement. How would it be different? In the grand scale of things, minorities and women are relatively new to the executive scene, so in larger and older corporations, the are going to be fewer in the upper echelons as they climb the ladder and compete with a larger white population. We see more and more minorities in upper executive/upper management positions as time goes on as more opportunity opens up for minorities. Business ownership...how is that a measure of anything other than the number of businesses that have been started by <insert race>? There were black owned businesses even in times when discrimination was rampant. I think the fact that there are many many more black owned businesses and the fact that a black person (or a Hispanic or Asian for that matter) can open a businesses and make it successful at an equal chance as a white who starts his/her own business is a good sign that things are a lot better. Is there room for improvement? Sure, there always will be, but to claim what you are claiming would be to say that there are no improvements. How much of whatever disparity there is, is based on the culture and not discrimination? Harping on how someone is keeping you down becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Would you want to hire someone that constantly complains about being oppressed by the man and has the accompanying attitude towards whites? Most people probably wouldn't any more than they would hire someone that dresses like a hippy into a professional position. Corporate America reminds me of the military in that conformity and uniformity is the key. Highly individualist people tend not to last long in corporate environments. Same goes with people who are radical in any direction. Your final statement (starting with "I know two types of white people") doesn't even make sense. -----Original Message----- From: Vivec [mailto:gel21...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 11:11 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth. If what you said was applicable on a Nationwide level, the realities of the figures for employment, poverty, discrimination,leadership in the corporate sector, business ownership etc. would be very different. It is very easy to use anecdotes to attempt to portray those Blacks who do not achieve as being Lazy and messed up...but again that is immaterial. Because even if that were the case, it is still a problem, and it still means that there is not equality and not parity and that still needs addressing. You also cannot in any empirical way make such statements. I myself can find several statements by celebrities in hollywood (pick an industry that is most visible) who talk about the discrimination that still exists in the Entertainment business. We recently had several examples of Hollywood forcing directors to 'Whitewash' their casts and stories to make Black people = Villains and White People = Good Guys regardless of the actual subject matter on which the movies were based. So your theory just does not stand up to reality. I know two types of White people. Those that are stupid and complain about losing their homes, being unemployed and being kept down by Wall Street and the economy, and those that are Smart and have wonderful homes and great jobs without even trying. WTF?? On 22 July 2010 12:05, Sisk, Kris <ks...@gckschools.com> wrote: > > I know two types of black people. I know some who wine about being kept > down by 'the man' and never put any effort into making themselves a success. > If you call them on it they try to tell you there's no point in even trying > because being black means they have no chance anyway. In the end it's there > refusal to try that dooms them. They're also some of the most racist people > I've ever met (call them on that and you get called all kinds of nasty > names). > > The other blacks I know, who don't waste their energy complaining about > being oppressed, put no more effort or less into their careers than anyone > else and are just as successful as there white peers. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:323518 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
