Agreed. Was just throwing in that I have known successful minorities who still complain about being held back. Adding another dimension to what Kris posted.
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I would venture to say there's more than 3 types of "black" people :) > > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I used to wrok with a guy who was a very successful doctor. Great guy, >> hard worker, but he used to drone on about being held back by 'the >> man' (yes, he used to say 'the man'). So, for me, that would be a >> third kind of person. One who works hard, but still complains about >> being oppressed. >> >> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Sisk, Kris <ks...@gckschools.com> wrote: >>> >>> Wow...are you really that naÄve? >>> >>> I know two types of black people. I know some who wine about being kept >>> down by 'the man' and never put any effort into making themselves a >>> success. If you call them on it they try to tell you there's no point in >>> even trying because being black means they have no chance anyway. In the >>> end it's there refusal to try that dooms them. They're also some of the >>> most racist people I've ever met (call them on that and you get called all >>> kinds of nasty names). >>> >>> The other blacks I know, who don't waste their energy complaining about >>> being oppressed, put no more effort or less into their careers than anyone >>> else and are just as successful as there white peers. >>> >>> Granted this is just the people I know and can observe for myself, but it >>> seems to me that the ones being held back are being held back only by >>> themselves. There is no oppression of blacks by society anymore. The reason >>> we can't ignore it is because there are people who throw our supposed >>> oppression of minorities in our collective face constantly. If there were >>> any truth to that idea we would be following news about Hillary Clinton's >>> presidency. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: trish simon [mailto:trishsimo...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 9:56 AM >>> To: cf-community >>> Subject: Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA >>> Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth. >>> >>> >>> Racism...LOL...how many emails on this one subject, and the target >>> being "Blacks" (one of many minorities in America)? How many poster >>> who responded to the original subject has apologized for jumping on >>> the bandwagon to criticize and attack this woman, and the NAACP? How >>> many posters are outraged that the "media" has again deceived us, even >>> the White House did not investigate the facts before attacking this >>> woman? >>> >>> Just when I thought it could not get any worse, someone provided a >>> list of "successful Blacks" (not sure why Tiger Woods was on the >>> list), and then concluded with, "if there is a systemic oppression of >>> Blacks, these men and women would not have had the opportunity to >>> achieve what they have." >>> >>> I dare you to have this discussion with a "real" person of >>> color...reality is not as pretty. >>> >>> >>> On 7/22/10, Sam <sammyc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Race is a real issue and the Obama admin will make sure of that. >>>> In this day and age when blacks have achieved so much this admin >>>> spends so much time calling whites racists. That's bringing us back to >>>> a 60's mentality. You call someone an evil name often enough they >>>> might end up not liking you. That still won't make them racist, >>>> anti-bigot maybe, but the charge will still be racism. Can we stop the >>>> racism nonsense? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> I want to see a bigger focus on economics, on class, on structural >>>>> inequalities in the system that aligns big business with big >>>>> government to the detriment of 90% of the country. I think that there >>>>> is more that we can find in common than that which may divide us. But >>>>> I think that it is a mistake to pretend that race isn't a real issue >>>>> anymore and that the attempt to try and take race out of the equation >>>>> ends up pushing away a bunch of people who otherwise ought to be right >>>>> there in the fight with you. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:323471 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
