Yea, I realize its probably not realistic, mostly because people, in general, are dumb asses.
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Eric Roberts <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > You can't just do that because without something to enforce > non-discrimination, people will discriminate. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 10:42 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Oops! Did I say that on tape? Shirley Sherrod of the USDA > Sticks Her Foot In Her Mouth. > > > Here is a novel idea. How about if the job, college admission, etc go > to the most qualified candidates - PERIOD. > > It is just as wrong to deny someone a job, college admission, etc > based on how wealthy or poor they may be as it is to deny someone a > job based on their skin color. > > I think that if all things are equal, it would be more fair to flip a > coin or do 'rock paper scissors' than to use race or socio-economic > status or any other distinguishing characteristics to determine who > gets the job, college admission, etc. > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Jerry Barnes <critic...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> "A list of successful blacks is actually indicative that the problems > caused >> by prejudice and racism have not been solved to the point where they can > now >> be ignored." >> >> In your eyes it may show that. >> >> To me, it points out the hypocrisy of saying someone is going to be poor > or >> not successful because of their skin color. >> >> There are a multitude of successful minorities, many of which are at the > top >> of the profession they have chosen. If blacks or other minorities were >> currently oppressed, there wouldn't be any to make a list of. >> >> >> I am still waiting on evidence that affirmative action is still needed. >> >> There is a certain irony that if progressive hero Woodrow Wilson would not >> have been elected, things would have progressed better than they have: >> >> Woodrow was only the 2nd Democrat elected after the Civil War and the > first >> from the South. After election, a Jim Crow style of regulation took over >> the Federal government. Agencies that had been desegregated since the end >> of the Civil War were re-segregated. This includes the use of cafeterias >> and bathrooms. Many Black Managers were demoted or fired and no white was >> allowed to report to a black manager. Wilson's praise of the film "Birth > of >> a Nation", a film that glorified the KKK calling them heroes instead of > the >> enforcement arm of the Southern Democratic party, helped the film become a >> blockbuster. It also helped the KKK become a powerful political entity > and >> spread its influence to Northern and Midwestern states >> >> >> So, after this, there was no doubt that affirmative action was needed. In >> my opinion, the time has passed. If it wasn't, there is not way a Black >> man would be sitting in the Oval Office. >> >> If affirmative action does have to exist, it should be strictly based on >> economics. As Judah asked, ""How do you determine your ethnicity? When > the >> census form comes to you, how do you go about figuring out what to put >> down?" There is too much potential for confusion and misinterpretation. >> With economics, there is not. >> >> >> >> J >> >> - >> >> The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are >> willing to work and give to those who would not. I think myself that we > have >> more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living > on >> the labor of the industrious. - Thomas Jefferson >> >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:323535 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm