On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Gruss Gott <grussg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Apparently it's a state-by-state thing and usually the hospital keeps
> a record in it's dark vaults or something.

In 1961 Hawaii all you had to do was call the registrar and say you
had a child born in state and they would give you a certificate.

> Obviously this is a really bad process - what if the hospital burns
> down?  What if the records are destroyed somehow (water damage,
> hospital goes out of business)?

Nassau County archives burnt down years ago.

> So, the bottom line is that you could probably go to the hospital and
> request the "birth certificate document not the certificate of live
> birth" and maybe get it but the key point is ... LEGALLY YOU DON'T
> HAVE TOO!  And neither does the president.  Thus the insanity of this
> whole birther thing.

The cert Obama presented would not act as proof he was a Hawaiian native.


> Further, run through the scenarios for Obama:
>
> * He was born elsewhere, knows it, but through a genius level parental
> scam (involving newspaper announcements) etc he was claimed as a US

His grandparents lived in Hawaii so wouldn't they call it in to the paper?

> citizen when he wasn't.  So in that case he'd just apply for immigrant
> status (decades ago) like any reasonably intelligent person would.  So
> scratch that one.

If your son was born in say Kenya but you lived in Hawaii, would you
say fuck it, who needs an American citizenship anyway? It's not like
people have to sneak in here.

> * He was born elsewhere and doesn't know it.  As a kid with one parent
> a US citizen and another who was married to said US citizen for 4
> years ... how would that even work?  And why would they go through all
> the effort of some scam when they could just do it normally?  If it
> was a scam they'd have to have been pretty extensive given the
> newspaper announcements, etc  and how did they sneak out and back in
> to the country with no records?

Where his parents married and if so was it four years or four weeks.
Did they ever even live together?

> Of course trying to find a logical way for something like this to have
> happened is ridiculous because it didn't.
>
> And, personally, if these people were so smart to have pulled this off
> ... those are exactly the type of immigrants I want.
>
> Their kid is a self-made millionaire and President!

Self made? Didn't Ayers write his books and some Egyptian guy pay for
him to go to  Harvard?

Amazing how much trouble you go to painting the questioners as fools
yet you relish asking who Triggs real mother is. Why go through so
much trouble to hide everything about this m

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