I see an age divide in how IT people perceive Apple: My over 50 geek friends, in general, love apple.
All under 30 love apple or at least see it as a viable product even they have an android. My 35-50 IT friends split about 60% for, 40% against. Those against have a chip on their shoulder and say things like Scott does: "it's over priced" and "not a real computer" or "not good if you know what you're doing". Thats the general theme with the detractors. Here's a great example of why they're oh so wrong: Jobs created a whole new category of PC, the tablet. Wait! I know the retort: <cf-whine> "but tablets were already blah blah blah" One of my favorite Jobs sayings was one he rightfully repeated from Picasso: "good artists copy, great artists steal" Jobs didn't just copy products ideas - he made them HIS. He stole them! Go check out Braun's designs from the 60s. You'll see the iPod, mini, cube etc. Stolen. Genius! On Oct 8, 2011, at 11:32 PM, Maureen <mamamaur...@gmail.com> wrote: > > He didn't convince me of anything. He made a nice, reliable product and I > bought them. The idea that buying a product constitutes brainwashing is > laughable. I've owned a lot of Fords and several Hondas for the same reason > - they provide something I need - in this case, transportation, and they are > reliable. Does that mean I've been brainwashed by Ford and Honda. Not > likely. I used HP products for years - in fact, for the last decade I > bought nothing else in the PC product line. Every single one I bought has I > failed. I won't be buying any more. Does that mean I was brainwashed by HP > and now I've become un-brainwashed? > > I've never seen Jobs quoted as saying "you're holding it wrong" regarding > the iPhone, but if he did, he was likely joking. > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> As for his arrogance, I can sum up how I got that in one sentence: >> "You're holding it wrong" - which was Jobs' reply to people who >> complained about dropped calls and antenna problems with the iPhone 4. >> >> My MacBook Pro has been very reliable. However, it has not been more >> reliable than any other computer I have owned. As a matter of fact, it >> has been less so. Two years ago the video card on my MBP needed to be >> replaced - it was only about a year old at that point. I owned >> several Dells before that and never had any problems with them - >> matter of fact one of them still functions as my 'media server' >> running Linux. >> >> Maybe snake oil salesman is not the best analogy. Cult leader might be >> more fitting. Brain washer, maybe. He convinced millions of people >> they _needed_ his over priced gadgets - myself included. >> >> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Maureen <mamamaur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I would disagree. Snake oil salesmen sell products that don't work. One >> of >>> the main reasons I buy Apple products is that they are reliable. They do >>> what they are designed to and do it well. If other computer >> manufacturers >>> want to emulate Jobs, that quality is what they should strive for. >>> >>> I'm saying this after a month of dealing with the failure of every >> computer >>> in my office EXCEPT the Macs. >>> >>> I also liked Jobs as a person. I found him generous, soft-spoken, >> extremely >>> intelligent and always willing to listen. Not arrogant at all, so I >> don't >>> know where you get your opinion of him. >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Jobs did not bring technology to the average person. He convinced the >>>> average person they should buy his over priced gadgets. He was more of >>>> a snake oil salesman than anything else. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:343354 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
