There are base line static morals that we can all agree on.  Murder, rape,
theft and so on.
On Jan 2, 2013 11:21 AM, "Vivec" <gel21...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I think it is the same thing. You rationalise and pick what to agree with
> and believe in depending on your own personal situation.
>
>
> On 2 January 2013 12:13, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I have yet to see a definition of moral relativism that is not self
> > contradictory and typically is used for a pejorative by conservatives.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:08 AM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree with you about , and consider myself athiest because of it.
>  That
> > > however has little or nothing to do with moral relativism, and I didn't
> > see
> > > Jerry mention religion or the bible.
> > > On Jan 2, 2013 10:36 AM, "Vivec" <gel21...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Yeah. Some people take religion literally, which when you start to get
> > into
> > >> what these books say, becomes ridiculous.
> > >>
> > >> An intelligent individual starts to make one rationalisation, and one
> > >> allowance after the next for the statements made.
> > >> Soon they are following one portion of the book, and not another, then
> > >> picking one set of conflicting "rules" to follow over another.
> > >>
> > >> The person ends up with their own interpretation of what is contained
> in
> > >> those books, or the interpretation taught to them through the
> teachings
> > of
> > >> their favourite religious leader.
> > >>
> > >> It gets to be quite ridiculous, and is what I believe causes objective
> > and
> > >> rational thinkers to leave religions entirely, or at least not
> practice
> > >> them to the letter.
> > >> There are far too many contradictions and downright obscene and
> > degrading
> > >> "rules" contained in these "holy" books. This is especially true of
> > those
> > >> rules and philosophies which target women.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 2 January 2013 11:09, Marlon Moyer <marlon.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> > I agree with you J, this culture of relative moralism is really
> > pitiful.
> > >> >  I mean, crap, why should the government have any say in what I do
> to
> > my
> > >> > wife or kids.  I mean, really, if the good book says I can kill my
> > child
> > >> if
> > >> > they misbehave, well, damn....why should I listen to anyone else
> about
> > >> it?
> > >> >  ..and why in the heck can't I sell my daughters any more to be maid
> > >> > servants?  Give me one good reason?
> > >> >
> > >> > And what about those fornicators too? Why in the hell haven't we
> been
> > >> > stoning Petraeus along with all his low moral brethren....especially
> > all
> > >> > those people who are "divorced".  They're the worst!  I guess they
> > didn't
> > >> > get the whole "What God has put together, let no man put asunder"
> > >> meaning.
> > >> >
> > >> > And WTF don't all of our Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom vets all
> have
> > >> > Iraqi child brides?  We should have slain all the men and all the
> > women
> > >> > who'd had sex and then distributed the female children amongst our
> > >> troops.
> > >> >  Oh, and we should have killed all the Iraqi male children too!
>  Can't
> > >> have
> > >> > them growing up to exact vengeance on us.
> > >> >
> > >> > And what about all these rich people worrying about saving their tax
> > >> > money?  Don't they realize they ain't getting to heaven if they're
> > rich.
> > >> >
> > >> > oh and speaking of rich people.  We need to put to death every one
> of
> > the
> > >> > NFL players.  They've been flaunting their work on the Sabbath every
> > week
> > >> > by broadcasting on it Television.  The Sabbath is for rest and the
> > Bible
> > >> > commands us to put to death anyone who's dumb enough to work on that
> > day.
> > >> >
> > >> > Not only are they working on the Sabbath, but have you seen some of
> > the
> > >> > tattoos on those heathens?  The good book is pretty darn clear about
> > >> > marking up your body and it ain't gonna be pretty when they face
> Him.
> > >> >
> > >> > We've become a society that's too worried about people's rights.  As
> > long
> > >> > as a man has rights, that's all that's needed.  Heck, women aren't
> > even
> > >> > supposed to teach men so why should we be giving them votes or God
> > >> forbid,
> > >> > a place on the pulpit!  Women are to be in subjection to us so how
> can
> > >> they
> > >> > possibly be equals!?  Likewise, children are property and last I
> > checked,
> > >> > property doesn't have rights.
> > >> >
> > >> > The biggest tragedy here is that poor boy was obviously being
> > controlled
> > >> > by the devil!  Evil had taken over his body and was doing things to
> > him
> > >> > that his immortal soul would have never done by itself.  I only hope
> > that
> > >> > his last thoughts on this Earth were of repentance and sincere
> belief
> > in
> > >> > the big man upstairs.  If they were, I'm sure he's in heaven playing
> > with
> > >> > those same little angels he sent there only moments earlier, 'cause
> > God
> > >> > will forgive all our sins no matter how big or small as long as we
> > >> repent!
> > >> >
> > >> > Now, you'll have to excuse me.  I've got to get out to protest in
> > front
> > >> of
> > >> > the Pappadeaux's restaurant.  I noticed today on their sign that the
> > are
> > >> > having a special on Lobster.  Can you freakin' believe it?  Lobster.
> > >> >  They're just inviting the lightning of God's wrath to rain down on
> > them.
> > >> >  I'm going to protest from across the street, just in case He does.
> > >> >
> > >> > > Upon seeing this, I thought about how far morality has fallen in
> or
> > >> > > country.  I wondered if the country could fall any further into
> > >> > > depravity.
> > >> >
> > >> > > Some pundits keep preaching the demise of the USA.  With the rise
> of
> > >> > moral
> > >> > > relativism, no personal accountability, and the culture of blame,
> > that
> > >> is
> > >> > > prevalent in the US, they may be right.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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