The difference is choice.
On Feb 14, 2013 3:21 PM, "Eric Roberts" <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com>
wrote:

>
> Again...going to the ER isn't healthcare...they only treat the immediate
> problem.  Saying you can get your healthcare by going to the ER is the
> biggest lie propagated ever.  Medicade and medicare are set pretty low.
> Other than minimum wage workers...that is out of the question. Not all
> areas
> have Charitable hospitals.  Those are great where they exist.  When I lived
> in Louisiana they had them.  Here in IL...nope.  Charitable contributions
> are not doing it.  The problem with quoting charitable contributions is
> that
> also counts contributions to churches. Most of what is contributed to
> churches goes to admin costs...not charity.
>
> IT has already gained root...the majority of people in this country think
> we
> should have universal healthcare.  The stupidest thing I have ever heard in
> the whole healthcare debate is this tax burden thing.  What is the
> difference between getting money taken out of your check in taxes or
> getting
> money taken out of your check for an insurance premium?  That is a really
> fucking stupid argument.  When you spread the costs of premiums out amongst
> a larger base (ie spreading the risk over a wider base), premiums go down.
> People want to kill Obamacare before it even has a chance to be fully
> implemented because you believe all of the stupid bullshit and propaganda
> from the insurance industry and the moneyed interests in the Republican
> party.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:58 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
>
>
> While your information is what the media and the left would have you
> believe.  Hospitals must treat you by law.  Federally medicaid and medicare
> cover millions, and states have additional prograns in many cases.  We are
> also among the highest levels of charity contributions, which contribtes as
> well.
>
> Your Scandanavian idea will never gain roots here.  Those countries are
> socialist, the real kind.  Their tax burdens are insane and our
> constituency
> will never allow it.  There are very real problems with health care, but
> the
> government hasn't been the answer yet, and I seriously doubt it ever will.
> Too much money and too many companies and corruption in our legislature.
> The pharmacutical industry alone throws millions of dollars at making sure
> they get their way.
>
> I don't know what the answer is, but this certainly isn't it.
> On Feb 14, 2013 9:31 AM, "Vivec" <gel21...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > It's simplistic, but it's the truth.
> >
> > And no, it is not the same in many other countries. I mentioned the
> > Scandinavian ones as an example.
> > You don't have to think "there is no way I can afford healthcare for
> > this disease I have, I am going to die"
> > in many countries around the world.
> >
> > From my information however, this is the reality of tens of millions
> > of Americans if they get seriously ill.
> >
> > On 14 February 2013 10:27, GMoney <gm0n3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Statements like "yeah, it really sucks that you still die in America
> > > if
> > you
> > > don't have enough money" may get you high fives as your next vegan
> > > lunch date, but it's somewhat petty and myopicw hen you consider the
> reality.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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