Not choice but lack thereof. When you can't afford care, the ER is all you have.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:23 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The difference is choice. > On Feb 14, 2013 3:21 PM, "Eric Roberts" <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> > wrote: > >> >> Again...going to the ER isn't healthcare...they only treat the immediate >> problem. Saying you can get your healthcare by going to the ER is the >> biggest lie propagated ever. Medicade and medicare are set pretty low. >> Other than minimum wage workers...that is out of the question. Not all >> areas >> have Charitable hospitals. Those are great where they exist. When I lived >> in Louisiana they had them. Here in IL...nope. Charitable contributions >> are not doing it. The problem with quoting charitable contributions is >> that >> also counts contributions to churches. Most of what is contributed to >> churches goes to admin costs...not charity. >> >> IT has already gained root...the majority of people in this country think >> we >> should have universal healthcare. The stupidest thing I have ever heard in >> the whole healthcare debate is this tax burden thing. What is the >> difference between getting money taken out of your check in taxes or >> getting >> money taken out of your check for an insurance premium? That is a really >> fucking stupid argument. When you spread the costs of premiums out amongst >> a larger base (ie spreading the risk over a wider base), premiums go down. >> People want to kill Obamacare before it even has a chance to be fully >> implemented because you believe all of the stupid bullshit and propaganda >> from the insurance industry and the moneyed interests in the Republican >> party. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:58 AM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act >> >> >> While your information is what the media and the left would have you >> believe. Hospitals must treat you by law. Federally medicaid and medicare >> cover millions, and states have additional prograns in many cases. We are >> also among the highest levels of charity contributions, which contribtes as >> well. >> >> Your Scandanavian idea will never gain roots here. Those countries are >> socialist, the real kind. Their tax burdens are insane and our >> constituency >> will never allow it. There are very real problems with health care, but >> the >> government hasn't been the answer yet, and I seriously doubt it ever will. >> Too much money and too many companies and corruption in our legislature. >> The pharmacutical industry alone throws millions of dollars at making sure >> they get their way. >> >> I don't know what the answer is, but this certainly isn't it. >> On Feb 14, 2013 9:31 AM, "Vivec" <gel21...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> > It's simplistic, but it's the truth. >> > >> > And no, it is not the same in many other countries. I mentioned the >> > Scandinavian ones as an example. >> > You don't have to think "there is no way I can afford healthcare for >> > this disease I have, I am going to die" >> > in many countries around the world. >> > >> > From my information however, this is the reality of tens of millions >> > of Americans if they get seriously ill. >> > >> > On 14 February 2013 10:27, GMoney <gm0n3...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > Statements like "yeah, it really sucks that you still die in America >> > > if >> > you >> > > don't have enough money" may get you high fives as your next vegan >> > > lunch date, but it's somewhat petty and myopicw hen you consider the >> reality. >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:361227 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm