What choice?

-----Original Message-----
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:24 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act


The difference is choice.
On Feb 14, 2013 3:21 PM, "Eric Roberts" <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com>
wrote:

>
> Again...going to the ER isn't healthcare...they only treat the 
> immediate problem.  Saying you can get your healthcare by going to the 
> ER is the biggest lie propagated ever.  Medicade and medicare are set
pretty low.
> Other than minimum wage workers...that is out of the question. Not all 
> areas have Charitable hospitals.  Those are great where they exist.  
> When I lived in Louisiana they had them.  Here in IL...nope.  
> Charitable contributions are not doing it.  The problem with quoting 
> charitable contributions is that also counts contributions to 
> churches. Most of what is contributed to churches goes to admin 
> costs...not charity.
>
> IT has already gained root...the majority of people in this country 
> think we should have universal healthcare.  The stupidest thing I have 
> ever heard in the whole healthcare debate is this tax burden thing.  
> What is the difference between getting money taken out of your check 
> in taxes or getting money taken out of your check for an insurance 
> premium?  That is a really fucking stupid argument.  When you spread 
> the costs of premiums out amongst a larger base (ie spreading the risk 
> over a wider base), premiums go down.
> People want to kill Obamacare before it even has a chance to be fully 
> implemented because you believe all of the stupid bullshit and 
> propaganda from the insurance industry and the moneyed interests in 
> the Republican party.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:58 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Latest News on the The Affordable Care Act
>
>
> While your information is what the media and the left would have you 
> believe.  Hospitals must treat you by law.  Federally medicaid and 
> medicare cover millions, and states have additional prograns in many 
> cases.  We are also among the highest levels of charity contributions, 
> which contribtes as well.
>
> Your Scandanavian idea will never gain roots here.  Those countries 
> are socialist, the real kind.  Their tax burdens are insane and our 
> constituency will never allow it.  There are very real problems with 
> health care, but the government hasn't been the answer yet, and I 
> seriously doubt it ever will.
> Too much money and too many companies and corruption in our legislature.
> The pharmacutical industry alone throws millions of dollars at making 
> sure they get their way.
>
> I don't know what the answer is, but this certainly isn't it.
> On Feb 14, 2013 9:31 AM, "Vivec" <gel21...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > It's simplistic, but it's the truth.
> >
> > And no, it is not the same in many other countries. I mentioned the 
> > Scandinavian ones as an example.
> > You don't have to think "there is no way I can afford healthcare for 
> > this disease I have, I am going to die"
> > in many countries around the world.
> >
> > From my information however, this is the reality of tens of millions 
> > of Americans if they get seriously ill.
> >
> > On 14 February 2013 10:27, GMoney <gm0n3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Statements like "yeah, it really sucks that you still die in 
> > > America if
> > you
> > > don't have enough money" may get you high fives as your next vegan 
> > > lunch date, but it's somewhat petty and myopicw hen you consider 
> > > the
> reality.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 



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