No, not grasping, I haven't even read anything yet, nor done my own
research, just wanted to point out that seagulls aren't mammals.

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:24 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh

You're starting to grasp at straws.


Ever seen cows going at it in fields. No bulls are around...

How about dogs.

The bonobo pygmy chimpanzee uses sex as a social glue to speak. Both
same
and opposite sex. In some cases individuals have demonstrated
exclusivity in
sexual preference. Chimpanzees are mammals no?

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:19 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> 
> 
> Seagulls aren't mammals
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:14 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> 
> It is. Homosexuality is found across all mamalian species - 
> for instance
> a
> few years ago there was a controversy about the "Gay" seagulls of
> Stanley
> Park in Vancouver BC.
> 
> If something is biologically based then its natural.
> 
> --
> Larry C. Lyons
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> Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> EBStor.com
> 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> tel:   (703) 393-7930
> fax:   (703) 393-2659
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> Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> --
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:08 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> > 
> > 
> > Rain is a naturally occurring event on the earth.  
> > Homosexuality is not.
> > If you agree with Larry, it is a genetic defect, or you 
> think it is a
> > choice.  Either way it is not what Mother nature intended, she did
> > however intend for it to rain.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:04 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> > 
> > To quote one of those quotes from the other days email
> > 
> > Saying you don't approve of homosexuality is like saying you don't
> > approve
> > of rain.
> > 
> > Its like saying you don't want schools to teach kids about rain and
> > close-minded people can be as close-minded as they want
> > I just find it incredibly funny how people can be sometimes.
> > 
> > Bill Wheatley
> > Senior Database Developer
> > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer
> > EDIETS.COM
> > 954.360.9022 X159
> > ICQ 417645
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hatton Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> > 
> > 
> > > The Civil Rights movement was originally designed to try and break
> > down
> > > the barriers that kept blacks out of board rooms and 
> > country clubs.  I
> > > am in complete agreement with the concept of making sure that the
> > color
> > > of a person's skin, their religous or sexual preferences... 
> > even nasty
> > > habits all be ignored when it comes to jobs, benifits and 
> freedoms.
> > >
> > > However, I also agree wholeheartedly that I should not be 
> forced to
> > have
> > > my daughter taught that "sometimes men just love men and 
> women just
> > love
> > > women" when she gets to elementary school.
> > >
> > > Hatton
> > >
> > > Larry Lyons wrote:
> > >
> > > > Given that the consensus now is that homosexuality is 
> biologically
> > based, I
> > > > take it that you consider it ok to discriminate against 
> > people based
> > on
> > > > factors that they cannot control.
> > > >
> > > > Isn't that what the civil rights stuff in the late 50's 
> and early
> > 60's
> > was
> > > > all about?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Larry C. Lyons
> > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer
> > > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> > > > EBStor.com
> > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> > > > tel:   (703) 393-7930
> > > > fax:   (703) 393-2659
> > > > Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
> > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >>Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 5:00 PM
> > > >>To: CF-Community
> > > >>Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Here is my take on Homosexuality.  What you do in the privacy of
> > your
> > > >>own home is your business.  I support equal rights for gay
> > > >>people, they
> > > >>are people, they don't however, deserve special rights.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >>Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:59 PM
> > > >>To: CF-Community
> > > >>Subject: Super Duper Contraversial post....heheh
> > > >>
> > > >>The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362
> > > >>admonishments
> > > >>to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love
> > > >>heterosexuals.
> > > >>It's just that they need more supervision.     ~Lynn Lavner
> > > >>
> > > >> If homosexuality is a disease, let's all call in queer to
> > > >>work: "Hello.
> > > >> Can't work today, still queer."    ~Robin Tyler
> > > >>
> > > >> I'd rather be black than gay because when you're black 
> you don't
> > have
> > > >>to
> > > >>tell your mother. ~Charles Pierce, 1980
> > > >>
> > > >> War. Rape. Murder. Poverty. Equal rights for gays. Guess
> > > >>which one the
> > > >>Southern Baptist Convention is protesting?    ~The Value 
> > of Families
> > > >>
> > > >> Jesse Helms and Newt Gingrich were shaking hands congratulating
> > > >>themselves on the introduction of an antigay bill in 
> > Congress. If it
> > > >>passes,
> > > >>they  won't be able to shake hands, because it will then be
> > > >>illegal for
> > > >>a
> > > >>prick to touch an asshole.         ~Judy Carter
> > > >>
> > > >> 'You could move.'    ~Abigail Van Buren, "Dear Abby," in
> > > >>response to a
> > > >>reader who complained that a gay couple was moving in across
> > > >>the street
> > > >>and
> > > >>wanted to know what he could do to improve the quality of the
> > > >>neighborhood.
> > > >>
> > > >> The one bonus of not lifting the ban on gays in the military is
> > that
> > > >>the
> > > >>next time the government mandates a draft we can all declare
> > > >>homosexuality
> > > >>instead of running off to Canada.   ~Lorne Bloch
> > > >>
> > > >> Why can't they have gay people in the army?  
> Personally, I think
> > they
> > > >>are
> > > >>just afraid of a thousand guys with M16s going, "Who'd 
> you call a
> > > >>faggot?"
> > > >>~ Jon Stewart
> > > >>
> > > >> My lesbianism is an act of Christian charity.  All those 
> > women out
> > > >>there
> > > >>praying for a man, and I'm giving them my share.       ~Rita Mae
> > Brown
> > > >>
> > > >> Soldiers who are not afraid of guns, bombs, capture, torture or
> > death
> > > >>say
> > > >>they are afraid of homosexuals. Clearly we should not be used as
> > > >>soldiers;
> > > >>we should be used as weapons. ~Letter to the Editor, 
> The Advocate
> > > >>
> > > >> You don't have to be straight to be in the military; you 
> > just have
> > to
> > > >>be
> > > >>able to shoot straight.   ~Barry Goldwater
> > > >>
> > > >> Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable 
> seeing two
> > men
> > > >>holding guns than holding hands?      ~Ernest Gaines
> > > >>
> > > >> My own belief is that there is hardly anyone whose 
> > sexual life, if
> > it
> > > >>were
> > > >>broadcast, would not fill the world at large with surprise and
> > horror.
> > > >>~W. Somerset Maugham
> > > >>
> > > >> Drag is when a man wears everything a lesbian won't.   
>   ~Author
> > > >>Unknown
> > > >>
> > > >> If male homosexuals are called "gay," then female
> > > >>homosexuals should be
> > > >>called "ecstatic."    ~Shelly Roberts
> > > >>
> > > >> My mother took me to a psychiatrist when I was fifteen 
> > because she
> > > >>thought
> > > >>I was a latent homosexual. There was nothing latent about it.
> > > >>  ~Amanda
> > > >>Bearse
> > > >>
> > > >> Some women can't say the word lesbian...even when 
> their mouth is
> > full
> > > >>of
> > > >>one.    ~Kate Clinton
> > > >>
> > > >> No matter how far in or out of the closet you are, you 
> > still have a
> > > >>next
> > > >>step.      ~Author Unknown
> > > >>
> > > >> It always seemed to me a bit pointless to disapprove of
> > > >>homosexuality.
> > > >>It's like disapproving of rain.      ~Francis Maude
> > > >>
> > > >> The only queer people are those who don't love 
> anybody.     ~Rita
> > Mae
> > > >>Brown
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

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