You are placing a value judgement on a natural variation. 

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:16 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> 
> 
> Not if it is a biological defect, then it is not natural.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:14 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> 
> It is. Homosexuality is found across all mamalian species - 
> for instance
> a
> few years ago there was a controversy about the "Gay" seagulls of
> Stanley
> Park in Vancouver BC.
> 
> If something is biologically based then its natural.
> 
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> Larry C. Lyons
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> Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> EBStor.com
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:08 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> > 
> > 
> > Rain is a naturally occurring event on the earth.  
> > Homosexuality is not.
> > If you agree with Larry, it is a genetic defect, or you 
> think it is a
> > choice.  Either way it is not what Mother nature intended, she did
> > however intend for it to rain.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:04 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> > 
> > To quote one of those quotes from the other days email
> > 
> > Saying you don't approve of homosexuality is like saying you don't
> > approve
> > of rain.
> > 
> > Its like saying you don't want schools to teach kids about rain and
> > close-minded people can be as close-minded as they want
> > I just find it incredibly funny how people can be sometimes.
> > 
> > Bill Wheatley
> > Senior Database Developer
> > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hatton Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> > 
> > 
> > > The Civil Rights movement was originally designed to try and break
> > down
> > > the barriers that kept blacks out of board rooms and 
> > country clubs.  I
> > > am in complete agreement with the concept of making sure that the
> > color
> > > of a person's skin, their religous or sexual preferences... 
> > even nasty
> > > habits all be ignored when it comes to jobs, benifits and 
> freedoms.
> > >
> > > However, I also agree wholeheartedly that I should not be 
> forced to
> > have
> > > my daughter taught that "sometimes men just love men and 
> women just
> > love
> > > women" when she gets to elementary school.
> > >
> > > Hatton
> > >
> > > Larry Lyons wrote:
> > >
> > > > Given that the consensus now is that homosexuality is 
> biologically
> > based, I
> > > > take it that you consider it ok to discriminate against 
> > people based
> > on
> > > > factors that they cannot control.
> > > >
> > > > Isn't that what the civil rights stuff in the late 50's 
> and early
> > 60's
> > was
> > > > all about?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Larry C. Lyons
> > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer
> > > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> > > > EBStor.com
> > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> > > > tel:   (703) 393-7930
> > > > fax:   (703) 393-2659
> > > > Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
> > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >>Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 5:00 PM
> > > >>To: CF-Community
> > > >>Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Here is my take on Homosexuality.  What you do in the privacy of
> > your
> > > >>own home is your business.  I support equal rights for gay
> > > >>people, they
> > > >>are people, they don't however, deserve special rights.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >>Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:59 PM
> > > >>To: CF-Community
> > > >>Subject: Super Duper Contraversial post....heheh
> > > >>
> > > >>The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362
> > > >>admonishments
> > > >>to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love
> > > >>heterosexuals.
> > > >>It's just that they need more supervision.     ~Lynn Lavner
> > > >>
> > > >> If homosexuality is a disease, let's all call in queer to
> > > >>work: "Hello.
> > > >> Can't work today, still queer."    ~Robin Tyler
> > > >>
> > > >> I'd rather be black than gay because when you're black 
> you don't
> > have
> > > >>to
> > > >>tell your mother. ~Charles Pierce, 1980
> > > >>
> > > >> War. Rape. Murder. Poverty. Equal rights for gays. Guess
> > > >>which one the
> > > >>Southern Baptist Convention is protesting?    ~The Value 
> > of Families
> > > >>
> > > >> Jesse Helms and Newt Gingrich were shaking hands congratulating
> > > >>themselves on the introduction of an antigay bill in 
> > Congress. If it
> > > >>passes,
> > > >>they  won't be able to shake hands, because it will then be
> > > >>illegal for
> > > >>a
> > > >>prick to touch an asshole.         ~Judy Carter
> > > >>
> > > >> 'You could move.'    ~Abigail Van Buren, "Dear Abby," in
> > > >>response to a
> > > >>reader who complained that a gay couple was moving in across
> > > >>the street
> > > >>and
> > > >>wanted to know what he could do to improve the quality of the
> > > >>neighborhood.
> > > >>
> > > >> The one bonus of not lifting the ban on gays in the military is
> > that
> > > >>the
> > > >>next time the government mandates a draft we can all declare
> > > >>homosexuality
> > > >>instead of running off to Canada.   ~Lorne Bloch
> > > >>
> > > >> Why can't they have gay people in the army?  
> Personally, I think
> > they
> > > >>are
> > > >>just afraid of a thousand guys with M16s going, "Who'd 
> you call a
> > > >>faggot?"
> > > >>~ Jon Stewart
> > > >>
> > > >> My lesbianism is an act of Christian charity.  All those 
> > women out
> > > >>there
> > > >>praying for a man, and I'm giving them my share.       ~Rita Mae
> > Brown
> > > >>
> > > >> Soldiers who are not afraid of guns, bombs, capture, torture or
> > death
> > > >>say
> > > >>they are afraid of homosexuals. Clearly we should not be used as
> > > >>soldiers;
> > > >>we should be used as weapons. ~Letter to the Editor, 
> The Advocate
> > > >>
> > > >> You don't have to be straight to be in the military; you 
> > just have
> > to
> > > >>be
> > > >>able to shoot straight.   ~Barry Goldwater
> > > >>
> > > >> Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable 
> seeing two
> > men
> > > >>holding guns than holding hands?      ~Ernest Gaines
> > > >>
> > > >> My own belief is that there is hardly anyone whose 
> > sexual life, if
> > it
> > > >>were
> > > >>broadcast, would not fill the world at large with surprise and
> > horror.
> > > >>~W. Somerset Maugham
> > > >>
> > > >> Drag is when a man wears everything a lesbian won't.   
>   ~Author
> > > >>Unknown
> > > >>
> > > >> If male homosexuals are called "gay," then female
> > > >>homosexuals should be
> > > >>called "ecstatic."    ~Shelly Roberts
> > > >>
> > > >> My mother took me to a psychiatrist when I was fifteen 
> > because she
> > > >>thought
> > > >>I was a latent homosexual. There was nothing latent about it.
> > > >>  ~Amanda
> > > >>Bearse
> > > >>
> > > >> Some women can't say the word lesbian...even when 
> their mouth is
> > full
> > > >>of
> > > >>one.    ~Kate Clinton
> > > >>
> > > >> No matter how far in or out of the closet you are, you 
> > still have a
> > > >>next
> > > >>step.      ~Author Unknown
> > > >>
> > > >> It always seemed to me a bit pointless to disapprove of
> > > >>homosexuality.
> > > >>It's like disapproving of rain.      ~Francis Maude
> > > >>
> > > >> The only queer people are those who don't love 
> anybody.     ~Rita
> > Mae
> > > >>Brown
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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