I don't you that well so I can't answer the first 3 questions. But for my statement 
well, yes, if ones actions are scripted ("it was gods way", or "this is what god 
intended", "thank god for the food on my plate") then yes you are essenitally just a 
pawn in the Matrix.  How can one be independent and still believe in a god?  Going 
along to to the existence thread




>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/08/02 04:02PM >>>
I'm religious. Who do I hate? What actions have I done then blamed on God?
What accountability have I failed to take for myself?
Your entire statement is a generalization that basically makes me and
everyone else who has a faith into mindless drones. Not a good position to
take.


> This is why I hate religion's and do not believe a god could exist.
Religion is what people created way back when, when they needed an excuse to
hate.  And to this day its still a reason to hate.  Take religion out of
this and make them all atheists and we will see what's left of this war to
fight about.
>
> I can't stand watching athlete's, rock stars thank god for everything
under the sun.  If this thing they call a god is why they did x or why they
did y then doesn't that mean if I kill A and kill B it was god that wanted
it.......God and Religion are a great way to have a lack of accountability
for ones actions.
>
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/08/02 02:45PM >>>
> Yes, the entire basis of Israel is religious and yes its a holy war but
its
> not about who's right anymore. It's about who wants peace and who wants to
> kill every Jew.
>
>
> > How can you say Israel is mostly non-religious?
> >
> > One only has to visit the official Israeli government website to tell
how
> > non-religious Israel is.
> > http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/home.asp
> >
> > Especially apparent was the site map:
> > http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH00040
> >
> > You could also just look at their flag.
> >
> > I think it's safe to say that Israel is VERY MUCH SO religious. Religion
> is
> > the very basis of their existence. Saying that most of Israel is
> > non-religious is like saying most of Saudi Arabia is non-muslim.
> >
> > This is a holy war. It's two sides in argument over whose religion is
> right.
> > It's as simple as that.
> >
> > Adam.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 12:33 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel
> > >
> > >
> > > I am a non-religious fanatic and I assure you that most of
> > > israel is NON
> > > religious.  Entirely non-religious folks.
> > > I am insulted too.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Judith Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 9:25 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel
> > >
> > >
> > > > Frankly, as a religious fanatic, I am highly insulted.
> > > >
> > > > Judith
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 1:08 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: Israel/Arab Conflict 101: The history of Israel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > The conflict is never going to end until religious
> > > fanatics go away. The
> > > > > fanatics will just keep on fighting each other over
> > > cites, temples, etc
> > > > > until they have been destroyed. Then they will fit over
> > > the sand until
> > > > > they have nuked each other enough that no one can even
> > > live on the sand.
> > > > >
> > > > > Matt Liotta
> > > > > President & CEO
> > > > > Montara Software, Inc.
> > > > > http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> > > > > 888-408-0900 x901
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> 

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