Probably. Now if Hitler hadn't been a nmbdass and gone and attacked Russia I think he might have done better. He needed the oil they had though.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 12:01 PM Subject: RE: France? > At the same time Wavell had a very successful campain that by the end of > 1942 the Italians were pushed out of east africa,and most of Lybia. Remember > this was done by an army that only a year earlier had been all but crushed > by the Germans. With that sort of recovery, and at this point Australian, NZ > and Canadian troops were pouring into the European and Middle-Eastern > theaters. It just would have taken longer is all. > > larry > > -- > Larry C. Lyons > ColdFusion/Web Developer > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > EBStor.com > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > tel: (703) 393-7930 > fax: (703) 393-2659 > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > -- > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 12:24 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: France? > > > > > > Does this sound like getting pushed back to you Larry: > > > > Between 1942 and 1944, German military forces extended the > > area under their > > occupation to southern France, central and northern Italy, > > Slovakia, and > > Hungary. > > > > Sure doesn't to me. > > Source: U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:20 AM > > Subject: RE: France? > > > > > > > Really, By the end of 1942 Germany was getting pushed back. > > Its economy > > was > > > running ad 3/4's capacity and the Commonwealth nations were > > just getting > > > started. It just would have taken longer. > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 10:13 AM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: France? > > > > > > > > > > > > We could play what if's all day...so i'll add one more. > > > > France was dead in > > > > the water...Britain wasn't faring much better, if the Germans > > > > hadn't had to > > > > deal with the US on the Western front I think it would have > > > > been a little > > > > different. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:00 AM > > > > Subject: RE: France? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not necessarily. It would have taken longer, and the Soviet > > > > Union would > > > > have > > > > > probably eventually conquered all of Germany. To a > > large extent the > > > > Eastern > > > > > Front was where the European part of the Second World War > > > > was won and > > > > lost. > > > > > Western Europe and Italy/North Africa were much more > > like secondary > > > > > operations. > > > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > > > > EBStor.com > > > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 9:48 AM > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > Subject: Re: France? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can't deny that if we hadn't been involved in the > > > > WWII that there > > > > > > wouldn't be a german flag flying atop the Eifel Tower today. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Stephen Moretti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 8:29 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: France? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The English-French hatred goes way back.... Thousands of > > > > > > years of war (and > > > > > > > still continuing)... long before the US of A was even a > > > > twinkle in > > > > > > anyone's > > > > > > > eyes, so we'll be having none of this "we saved the > > > > French from the > > > > > > German's > > > > > > > and they don't respect us" rubbish, particularly from an > > > > > > expat German, > > > > > > Herr > > > > > > > Schmidt! ;oD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stephen > > > > > > > PS. Generally I don't dislike the French (or Germans) > > > > > > myself, but I have > > > > > > > found that some of the French are a touch arrogant, but > > > > > > then I'm sure the > > > > > > > same could be said for every other nation in the world! :o) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 2:05 PM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: France? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They didn't provide much help in the Rev War, although > > > > > > they did provide > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > (mostly Naval). However, I didn't see piles of French > > > > > > Soldiers piled up > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > the beaches of the east coast like the bodies of US > > > > Soldiers at > > > > > > Normandy. > > > > > > > > Their contribution was much less than that of ours. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: "Jochem van Dieten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 7:58 AM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: France? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kevin Schmidt wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Here it is in a nutshell: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We saved their ass twice from the Germans > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you want to dig out history, I would say that the US > > > > > > was merely > > > > > > > > > returning the favour for the support during the > > US war for > > > > > > > > independence.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and now they don't respect us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you give some examples of that? And I don't > > > > mean examples of > > > > > > > > > specific special interest groups not respecting the US > > > > > > (that is what > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > mean by us, right?), but the mainstream French. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jochem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-community@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
