Yes, but my point is that when people think the graphics are better, they
really aren't. It's just that TV is so crappy, so the game looks good.

I was talking a while back with a person who was converting their TV studio
to HD and they found that the quality of an HD picture was so much better
than regular TV that they had to build much, much better sets instead of the
regular plywood and a coat of paint; and they also had to make sure that the
makeup on the talent was much better than the regular cake.

-Kevin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 12:06 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Xbox or Gamecube
>
>
> To be fair...640x480 isn't a limit placed by the console, but by the
> software and the fact that very few people have higher end tv's.
> I know the
> XBox includes an hdtv encoder, and the others probably do as well.
>
> --
>  jon
>  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thursday, January 2, 2003, 10:54:08 AM, you wrote:
> >> The speed and graphics quality is something that computers can't
> >> reach..yet.
> >>
> >> -Gel
>
> KG> Even though people think they look great, the graphics
> quality of consoles
> KG> is nowhere near the quality of computers. This is because of
> a.) console
> KG> processor power; and b.) TV resolution.
>
> KG> Modern consoles are only giving you about a 640x480 image. In
> addition, the
> KG> textures and such are extremely optimized (i.e. low quality) to take
> KG> advantage of the TV screen's forgiving nature. To give you an
> example of how
> KG> forgiving the TV screen is, here is a jpg that looks
> absolutely gorgeous on
> KG> a TV screen:
>
> KG> http://itv.wpt.org/gardener/images/gardener1.jpg
>
> KG> Notice that it's a relatively small image, but when shown on
> a TV screen
> KG> it's full size and all the banding and jaggies are smoothed
> out. The key
> KG> thing here is that it's compressed so much that it's only 13K
> as opposed to
> KG> say, 100K or more that it would need to look as good on a PC monitor.
>
> KG> Here's another one that's 5K:
>
> KG> http://itv.wpt.org/gardener/images/gardener3.jpg
>
> KG> If you look, you'll see tons of banding and blocking, but
> again it looks
> KG> smooth as silk on a TV screen.
>
> KG> That's why consoles can play so well with such low specs.
> They cut a lot of
> KG> corners to do it. Fortunately, the quality appears good
> enough for people to
> KG> still like them. If you were to play exactly the same game
> with the same
> KG> textures and resolution on a PC it would look like crap. So
> with PC titles,
> KG> they have to provide higher quality textures and higher
> resolutions to make
> KG> it look good.
>
> KG> It will be interesting though to see how well XBox games work
> when people
> KG> hook them to HD displays. I know that Metal Gear 2 for XBox
> has some serious
> KG> framerate issues at times.
>
> KG> -Kevin
>
>
>
> KG>
> 
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