> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 11 June 2003 16:32
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: A good american
> 
> 
> Actually you are in denial.
> 
> Anyone who if physically able, and after an attack by a 
> foreign power, who will not participate in the defense of 
> his/her country is a Coward, and in my mind does not deserve 
> the protections of citizenship.

Presumably that applies to Iraq as well as the USA?
 
> I have never advocated shoot first and ask questions later, 
> although perhaps there are situations where that would solve 
> the immediate problem.  But refusing to participate in the 
> defense of your own homeland after it has been attacked, is 
> definitely cowardice in the first degree.

In your subjective opinion.

> If you are so enthralled with The Dali Lama, them perhaps you 
> are working on moving to his country of choice.

The Dali Lamas country of choice is Tibet, for obvious reasons he can't
go back there. 

But back to the point, you said there was no religion that opposes war,
I was pointing out there is at least one.

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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Wayne Putterill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:15 AM
> Subject: RE: A good american
> 
> 
> | Buddism.
> |
> | If you can call the Dali Lama a coward, you don't know the story.
> |
> | I must admit I find your conviction that anyone who doesn't 
> go in guns 
> | blazing is a coward to be very depressing, I hope that that sort of 
> | ultra aggressive attitude will die out soon.
> |
> | > -----Original Message-----
> | > From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> | > Sent: 11 June 2003 16:09
> | > To: CF-Community
> | > Subject: Re: A good american
> | >
> | >
> | > Of course I hold them in contempt, and likewise term them 
> "Cowards" 
> | > There is no recognized religion that opposes war, none at 
> all.  In 
> | > fact all of them have a history of oppression, war, 
> exploiting the 
> | > meek, preferring to keep the faithful ignorant, and 
> couching their 
> | > dogma is falsehoods and deception. There is no sincere 
> opposition to 
> | > armed conflict, only cowardice.  Genuine Conscientious 
> Objectors are 
> | > nothing more than cowards, and as such are parasitic upon 
> legitimate
> | > government and its loyal people.  They should all be either
> | > exported or executed.
> | >
> | > You sadly misquote Ghandi, Mother Theresa and Martin 
> Luther King.  
> | > and are completely wrong about the Mennonites.
> | >
> | > But, you will survive, because the majority of the citizenry will 
> | > bear arms to defend your rights and constitutional 
> protections, as 
> | > well as permitting you to espouse your lies and deceptions.
> | >
> | >
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> | > ----- Original Message -----
> | > From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:52 AM
> | > Subject: RE: A good american
> | >
> | >
> | > | So I take it that you hold in contempt those who have a 
> sincere, 
> | > | religious or otherwise, conviction that serving in the 
> military is 
> | > | wrong. Its great to know that there are those who would gladly 
> | > | persecute others based on their beliefs. Genuine conscientious 
> | > | objectors would fall under your rubric. People like 
> Ghandi, Mother 
> | > | Teresa, Martin Luther King etc have those beliefs. 
> There are other 
> | > | groups like the Mennonites who also have very strong
> | > religious beliefs
> | > | against serving in the military.
> | > |
> | > | Such ignorance is appalling.
> | > |
> | > | larry
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> | 
> 
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