Then you might get citizenship under a law that is being proposed to give
legal aliens who do military service citizenship.

I think its a great idea


"When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was good
with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people off!"
Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: A good american


> well, if you object to killing people why enlist, is my question. I for
> example took great care to never enlist for exactly this reason. If the US
> was invaded then I would be willing to do medic, I guess.  Might still
lead
> to having to kill someone but it would not be my actual function.
>
> Dana
>
> John Stanley writes:
>
> > That's why I specifically stated about the US being invaded. I think
that if
> > you enlist and there is a war in another country, and you object to
killing
> > another person for whatever reason, you should get another job, but
still on
> > the front line, like a medic or something.
> >
> > Basically it boils down to this: I as a citizen am willing to do
whatever my
> > country asks of me. I want to punish those who would not do the same.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:29 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: A good american
> >
> >
> > thats if the US is invaded though. (I am not going to go into
conscientous
> > (sp?) objectors; I think some are genuine but if the country is being
> > invaded they should serve *somehow*)
> >
> > My problem is when people extrapolate this to all other situations. We
> > invade Iraq and gee if you don't support this you are a coward. I
disagree.
> >
> > Dana
> >
> >
> > John Stanley writes:
> >
> > > Simple situation:
> > >
> > > If a country invaded the united states, and everyone had to choose
(which
> > is
> > > what would happen)
> > >
> > > You would either:
> > > 1. fight for the US (patriot)
> > > 2. fight against the US (traitor)
> > > 3. not fight (coward)
> > >
> > > That's it.
> > >
> > > If you object to fighting on the basis of some personal moral decision
> > when
> > > your homeland is at stake, then you are a coward.
> > >
> > > If you are drafted and you choose not to fight then you are a coward.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:16 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: A good american
> > >
> > >
> > > Buddism.
> > >
> > > If you can call the Dali Lama a coward, you don't know the story.
> > >
> > > I must admit I find your conviction that anyone who doesn't go in guns
> > > blazing is a coward to be very depressing, I hope that that sort of
> > > ultra aggressive attitude will die out soon.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: 11 June 2003 16:09
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: Re: A good american
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Of course I hold them in contempt, and likewise term them
> > > > "Cowards" There is no recognized religion that opposes war,
> > > > none at all.  In fact all of them have a history of
> > > > oppression, war, exploiting the meek, preferring to keep the
> > > > faithful ignorant, and couching their dogma is falsehoods and
> > > > deception. There is no sincere opposition to armed conflict,
> > > > only cowardice.  Genuine Conscientious Objectors are nothing
> > > > more than cowards, and as such are parasitic upon legitimate
> > > > government and its loyal people.  They should all be either
> > > > exported or executed.
> > > >
> > > > You sadly misquote Ghandi, Mother Theresa and Martin Luther
> > > > King.  and are completely wrong about the Mennonites.
> > > >
> > > > But, you will survive, because the majority of the citizenry
> > > > will bear arms to defend your rights and constitutional
> > > > protections, as well as permitting you to espouse your lies
> > > > and deceptions.
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done!
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:52 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: A good american
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > | So I take it that you hold in contempt those who have a sincere,
> > > > | religious or otherwise, conviction that serving in the military is
> > > > | wrong. Its great to know that there are those who would gladly
> > > > | persecute others based on their beliefs. Genuine conscientious
> > > > | objectors would fall under your rubric. People like Ghandi, Mother
> > > > | Teresa, Martin Luther King etc have those beliefs. There are other
> > > > | groups like the Mennonites who also have very strong
> > > > religious beliefs
> > > > | against serving in the military.
> > > > |
> > > > | Such ignorance is appalling.
> > > > |
> > > > | larry
> > > > |
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
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