Bill. Let me see if I can explain this so you can understand. The military service makes you eligible. You still have to apply, and certify that you are not a member of the Nazi party, and a few other things. You have to disclose any criminal history and you have to affirm that you have never advocated the overthrow of the US government. And so on for about eight pages. You then take the application down to the INS office with all the requisite photographs and --- pay attention now -- the application fee of $250. The fee is not waived for military or any other applicants that I have ever heard.
I personally have been eligible for several years, based on time I have already lived here. I did not file the paperwork sooner because I did not see the importance of voting. This last election has shown me the error of my ways. I will be filing the application. If I enlisted it would have zero effect on my eligibility. I am eligible already. Let me know if I need to use even smaller words. Dana On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 07:11:29 -0400, William Wheatley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh i know you can get citizenship other ways but see thats a free way for > you to do it LOL. > > > "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was good > with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people off!" > Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:06 PM > Subject: Re: A good american > > >> I don't need to perform military service to get citizenhip. I need to >> get >> over to the INS office with $250 dollars. >> >> The plan isnt just proposed. Two of the GIs killed in Iraq had enlisted > for >> this reason. I think its not a bad idea. Makes it easier for people to >> get >> citizenship. >> >> Dana >> >> William Wheatley writes: >> >> > Then you might get citizenship under a law that is being proposed to > give >> > legal aliens who do military service citizenship. >> > >> > I think its a great idea >> > >> > >> > "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was > good >> > with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people > off!" >> > Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" >> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dana Tierney" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:43 PM >> > Subject: Re: A good american >> > >> > >> > > well, if you object to killing people why enlist, is my question. I > for >> > > example took great care to never enlist for exactly this reason. If > the US >> > > was invaded then I would be willing to do medic, I guess. Might >> still >> > lead >> > > to having to kill someone but it would not be my actual function. >> > > >> > > Dana >> > > >> > > John Stanley writes: >> > > >> > > > That's why I specifically stated about the US being invaded. I >> think >> > that if >> > > > you enlist and there is a war in another country, and you object >> to >> > killing >> > > > another person for whatever reason, you should get another job, >> but >> > still on >> > > > the front line, like a medic or something. >> > > > >> > > > Basically it boils down to this: I as a citizen am willing to do >> > whatever my >> > > > country asks of me. I want to punish those who would not do the > same. >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:29 PM >> > > > To: CF-Community >> > > > Subject: Re: A good american >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > thats if the US is invaded though. (I am not going to go into >> > conscientous >> > > > (sp?) objectors; I think some are genuine but if the country is > being >> > > > invaded they should serve *somehow*) >> > > > >> > > > My problem is when people extrapolate this to all other >> situations. > We >> > > > invade Iraq and gee if you don't support this you are a coward. I >> > disagree. >> > > > >> > > > Dana >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > John Stanley writes: >> > > > >> > > > > Simple situation: >> > > > > >> > > > > If a country invaded the united states, and everyone had to >> choose >> > (which >> > > > is >> > > > > what would happen) >> > > > > >> > > > > You would either: >> > > > > 1. fight for the US (patriot) >> > > > > 2. fight against the US (traitor) >> > > > > 3. not fight (coward) >> > > > > >> > > > > That's it. >> > > > > >> > > > > If you object to fighting on the basis of some personal moral > decision >> > > > when >> > > > > your homeland is at stake, then you are a coward. >> > > > > >> > > > > If you are drafted and you choose not to fight then you are a > coward. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > > From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:16 PM >> > > > > To: CF-Community >> > > > > Subject: RE: A good american >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Buddism. >> > > > > >> > > > > If you can call the Dali Lama a coward, you don't know the >> story. >> > > > > >> > > > > I must admit I find your conviction that anyone who doesn't go >> in > guns >> > > > > blazing is a coward to be very depressing, I hope that that sort > of >> > > > > ultra aggressive attitude will die out soon. >> > > > > >> > > > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > > > From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > > Sent: 11 June 2003 16:09 >> > > > > > To: CF-Community >> > > > > > Subject: Re: A good american >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Of course I hold them in contempt, and likewise term them >> > > > > > "Cowards" There is no recognized religion that opposes war, >> > > > > > none at all. In fact all of them have a history of >> > > > > > oppression, war, exploiting the meek, preferring to keep the >> > > > > > faithful ignorant, and couching their dogma is falsehoods and >> > > > > > deception. There is no sincere opposition to armed conflict, >> > > > > > only cowardice. Genuine Conscientious Objectors are nothing >> > > > > > more than cowards, and as such are parasitic upon legitimate >> > > > > > government and its loyal people. They should all be either >> > > > > > exported or executed. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > You sadly misquote Ghandi, Mother Theresa and Martin Luther >> > > > > > King. and are completely wrong about the Mennonites. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > But, you will survive, because the majority of the citizenry >> > > > > > will bear arms to defend your rights and constitutional >> > > > > > protections, as well as permitting you to espouse your lies >> > > > > > and deceptions. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > ====================================== >> > > > > > Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! >> > > > > > For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com >> > > > > > ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 >> > > > > > ====================================== >> > > > > > If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! >> > > > > > >> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Larry C. Lyons" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:52 AM >> > > > > > Subject: RE: A good american >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > | So I take it that you hold in contempt those who have a > sincere, >> > > > > > | religious or otherwise, conviction that serving in the > military is >> > > > > > | wrong. Its great to know that there are those who would >> gladly >> > > > > > | persecute others based on their beliefs. Genuine >> conscientious >> > > > > > | objectors would fall under your rubric. People like Ghandi, > Mother >> > > > > > | Teresa, Martin Luther King etc have those beliefs. There are > other >> > > > > > | groups like the Mennonites who also have very strong >> > > > > > religious beliefs >> > > > > > | against serving in the military. >> > > > > > | >> > > > > > | Such ignorance is appalling. >> > > > > > | >> > > > > > | larry >> > > > > > | >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
