I don't need to perform military service to get citizenhip. I need to get over to the INS office with $250 dollars.
The plan isnt just proposed. Two of the GIs killed in Iraq had enlisted for this reason. I think its not a bad idea. Makes it easier for people to get citizenship. Dana William Wheatley writes: > Then you might get citizenship under a law that is being proposed to give > legal aliens who do military service citizenship. > > I think its a great idea > > > "When I came back from Korea, I had no money, no skills. Sure, I was good > with a bayonet, but you can't put that on a resume - it puts people off!" > Frank Barone, "Everybody Loves Raymond" > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dana Tierney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:43 PM > Subject: Re: A good american > > > > well, if you object to killing people why enlist, is my question. I for > > example took great care to never enlist for exactly this reason. If the US > > was invaded then I would be willing to do medic, I guess. Might still > lead > > to having to kill someone but it would not be my actual function. > > > > Dana > > > > John Stanley writes: > > > > > That's why I specifically stated about the US being invaded. I think > that if > > > you enlist and there is a war in another country, and you object to > killing > > > another person for whatever reason, you should get another job, but > still on > > > the front line, like a medic or something. > > > > > > Basically it boils down to this: I as a citizen am willing to do > whatever my > > > country asks of me. I want to punish those who would not do the same. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:29 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: A good american > > > > > > > > > thats if the US is invaded though. (I am not going to go into > conscientous > > > (sp?) objectors; I think some are genuine but if the country is being > > > invaded they should serve *somehow*) > > > > > > My problem is when people extrapolate this to all other situations. We > > > invade Iraq and gee if you don't support this you are a coward. I > disagree. > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > John Stanley writes: > > > > > > > Simple situation: > > > > > > > > If a country invaded the united states, and everyone had to choose > (which > > > is > > > > what would happen) > > > > > > > > You would either: > > > > 1. fight for the US (patriot) > > > > 2. fight against the US (traitor) > > > > 3. not fight (coward) > > > > > > > > That's it. > > > > > > > > If you object to fighting on the basis of some personal moral decision > > > when > > > > your homeland is at stake, then you are a coward. > > > > > > > > If you are drafted and you choose not to fight then you are a coward. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:16 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: RE: A good american > > > > > > > > > > > > Buddism. > > > > > > > > If you can call the Dali Lama a coward, you don't know the story. > > > > > > > > I must admit I find your conviction that anyone who doesn't go in guns > > > > blazing is a coward to be very depressing, I hope that that sort of > > > > ultra aggressive attitude will die out soon. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: 11 June 2003 16:09 > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: Re: A good american > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course I hold them in contempt, and likewise term them > > > > > "Cowards" There is no recognized religion that opposes war, > > > > > none at all. In fact all of them have a history of > > > > > oppression, war, exploiting the meek, preferring to keep the > > > > > faithful ignorant, and couching their dogma is falsehoods and > > > > > deception. There is no sincere opposition to armed conflict, > > > > > only cowardice. Genuine Conscientious Objectors are nothing > > > > > more than cowards, and as such are parasitic upon legitimate > > > > > government and its loyal people. They should all be either > > > > > exported or executed. > > > > > > > > > > You sadly misquote Ghandi, Mother Theresa and Martin Luther > > > > > King. and are completely wrong about the Mennonites. > > > > > > > > > > But, you will survive, because the majority of the citizenry > > > > > will bear arms to defend your rights and constitutional > > > > > protections, as well as permitting you to espouse your lies > > > > > and deceptions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ====================================== > > > > > Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! > > > > > For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com > > > > > ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 > > > > > ====================================== > > > > > If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:52 AM > > > > > Subject: RE: A good american > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > | So I take it that you hold in contempt those who have a sincere, > > > > > | religious or otherwise, conviction that serving in the military is > > > > > | wrong. Its great to know that there are those who would gladly > > > > > | persecute others based on their beliefs. Genuine conscientious > > > > > | objectors would fall under your rubric. People like Ghandi, Mother > > > > > | Teresa, Martin Luther King etc have those beliefs. There are other > > > > > | groups like the Mennonites who also have very strong > > > > > religious beliefs > > > > > | against serving in the military. > > > > > | > > > > > | Such ignorance is appalling. > > > > > | > > > > > | larry > > > > > | > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Host with the leader in ColdFusion hosting. Voted #1 ColdFusion host by CF Developers. Offering shared and dedicated hosting options. www.cfxhosting.com/default.cfm?redirect=10481 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
