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From: "Philip Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 10:16 PM
Subject: RE: HD Tee vees..

> > Okay. They're still about 5-10x more expensive than a TV
> > should be IMO. Whether you consider that worth paying is up to you.
>
> Yeep
>
> Our 51" Wide Screen, Rear Projection HDTV cost us $1,400

I consider any TV over $400 to be too expensive. Notice that I did say
"IMO". This goes along with the frugality thread Erika started. I'm a
tightwad. I have a TV that works fine. Is it HD? No, but honestly I don't
see enough benefit for me to balance the expense vs just keeping what I
have. It's why I keep driving my old '89 Mazda too.

> > An "HDTV Ready" TV has everything except the ability to pick
> > up the signal, so that will need an external tuner box.
>
> Erm, our TV has all the same tuners and stuff as a regular TV, it can
> run a regular signal if you want...

I was just referring to the HD signal. If it's HDTV Ready, then it needs an
external tuner for the digital signal. That's all I was saying. Sorry if
that wasn't clear.

> For those who don't know; Progressive Scan is where it only updates the
> bits that have changed on the screen, it sends different signals to the
> TV of the "updates" rather than the whole picture...

Actually progressive scan is where it draws every line for every frame in
one pass. That's instead of interlaced which draws every other line and it
takes two passes or "fields" to create one frame.

> > The quality of cable tv on a big hdtv may not be to your
> > liking. I'm not sure about how things are in TT, but most
> > cable companies, even those with digital cable, still use
> > analog for the majority of the lower channels. Displaying
> > this on a big hdtv means that the image will be "upconverted"
> > to the HD resolution, but it won't be true HD. Even if your
> > cable company offers HD on their cable, you may not really
> > get it unless you can connect the cable tuner with component cables.
>
> We have a HD box, we get HD channels... Guesss what - they're in HD!
>
> Regular channels look better when run through the coax cable, but when
> we are watching the HD channels, we switch to the HD input

The analog and non-HD digital channels are obviously not HD. All I was
saying is that displaying them on a hdtv doesn't magically make them HD. And
if you have HD channels, you need to use cables capable of carrying the
signal, like component cables. Which is what I said and what you say you're
doing. Unfortunately not all cable companies provide boxes that include
component video output. Mine doesn't. You're obviously more fortunate.

> > Another thing to consider is that digital cable is completely
> > different than digital broadcast. Almost no HDTV on the
> > market will tune digital cable, even if it has a built in
> > tuner. It will only pick up the over the air digital signal.
>
> /me looks at the HDTV in front of him that's running digital cable
>
> So, what's that then? <g>

You said you're using an cable box. That's what's doing the digital cable
tuning. I didn't say you couldn't view digital cable, just that most of the
tuners built in to the HDTVs on the market don't do it automatically. So yes
you can view digital cable, but you can't do it without a cable box. But
that's going to change soon when QAM tuners are built in.

I'm not telling Angel not to get a HDTV. I'm just trying to point out some
of the technical considerations so he can better make an informed decision.
Most people don't know about the QAM tuning for instance. The price issue is
just my personal bugaboo.

-Kevin
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