Have you heard that Brazil is quickly becoming the next country to outsource
IT work to?  I heard that just last week, it is something one manager here
is looking into even though it is not technically "east" but he likes the
idea of at least having people close to the same time zone he is in.
Your experience with outsource work matches exactly what I have experienced
over the past 10 years or so.  I have been told, nothing to validate this,
that the quality of the outsourced work has greatly improved in recent
years.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Ravi Gehlot <r...@ravigehlot.net> wrote:

>
> Hello Aaron,
>
> I have worked for companies that outsourced their jobs to India.
> Probably, I should NOT mention company names for privacy purposes but I
> will tell of my experience. I am not trying to put India down or attack
> Indian people. This is just my personal experience. I do think that
> Indian people are smart people. In fact, my dad is Indian and my mom is
> Brazilian. I was born and raised in Brazil though so my culture is
> Brazilian without any Indian influence (yes, no influence). However, all
> these companies I worked for that outsourced their code to India ended
> up with bad code. Think about messy code. It was a real mess. No
> standards, no guidelines, no comments or documentation of any kind, no
> code indentation, no orientation or organization whatsoever. A total
> junk of code. I would often open a cfm file that contained 5,000 lines
> of code. Most of it was code that was not even being utilized. It felt
> like the code had been patched up over and over again. So these
> companies ended up having to employ people from here to fix or start
> from scratch. My personal experience with outsourced work has always
> been very bad due to bad coding habits. Not to mention the communication
> gap. As the old saying..."You get what you pay for" is very true with
> outsourced jobs. I mean, we have the work force available in the US to
> do what these companies need. I say..let's stop outsourcing our jobs.
> But who am I to say anything. I am from Brazil...I guess if I were in
> Brazil and I had an outsourced job there...I would take it in a heart
> bit (survival of the fittest). But my advise to companies here in the US
> is trust your employees. Let them do the work and pay them well. It will
> pay off on the long run.
>
> I think that here in the US...most programmers are aware of code
> organization and most are well prepared to do the job. Will other
> countries catch up? Hell yeah...it won't take long...but man...right
> now...no India please. The code is bad.
>
> As far as "servant" goes...like I said..it is tougher for foreigners
> anyways but take the opportunity to work here because at least you and
> me and others have these opportunities available (jobs in South America
> or Europe don't pay good at all). Make no mistake...the economy will get
> better. It will improve by the end of next year and all these tech jobs
> will come back. It may not be as great as it was before but it will pick
> up again.
>
> Just my $0.02,
> Ravi.


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