Ravi, 

I mentioned it because the way that I understand the program to work is that
you have to provide proof to the State Department that you attempted to hire
a citizen for the position. All that's required is a stack of resumes, and
someone to say that they weren't right for the job. 

I feel like many of the fishnet recruiters are collecting resumes for the
sole purpose of providing that proof. IE: there is no intent to actually
attempt to hire a citizen for the position.

I could be wrong about how the program works, but this is how it was
explained to me a few years ago.

--
Scott Stewart
ColdFusion Developer
4405 Oakshyre Way
Raleigh, NC 27616
(h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835

-----Original Message-----
From: Ravi Gehlot [mailto:r...@ravigehlot.net] 
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 4:42 PM
To: cf-jobs-talk
Subject: Re: Thinking of a career change.. how does one get into Technical
Recruiting..


Qasim,

    There is no problem with H1B Visas. I have no clue why Scott 
mentioned it. Who cares...

Ravi.




Qasim Rasheed wrote:
> What's wrong with H1B visa if used appropriately. I came to this country
> based on that facility and have been able to become a permanent citizen.
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Ravi Gehlot <r...@ravigehlot.net> wrote:
>
>   
>> Correct. There are good recruiters as there are bad ones. There are good
>> and bad everywhere. So it is important to work with someone that you
>> trust. Every programmer must do their own research.
>>
>> Ravi.
>>
>>
>> Scott Stewart wrote:
>>     
>>> I've worked with both, if I do go down this road I know who I don't want
>>>       
>> to
>>     
>>> be and that the guy who recruits by attrition. I've been the recipient
of
>>> the fishing email and phone calls dozens of times, and it's never panned
>>> out.
>>>
>>> Someone with horribly broken English calls about a job half way across
>>>       
>> the
>>     
>>> country and my first response is "are they considering telecommuters",
>>>       
>> the
>>     
>>> answer is usually no, or "what?".
>>>
>>> My next question is "is your client willing to contract a relocation
>>>       
>> company
>>     
>>> to move myself and my wife and buy our house". The answer again is
>>>       
>> usually
>>     
>>> no, and then they ask if I'm willing to rent an apartment wherever the
>>>       
>> job
>>     
>>> is, my answer is always no, because by this point, their asking me to
>>>       
>> take a
>>     
>>> financial loss to work for their client.
>>>
>>> On the other hand there are a handful of recruiters with whom I have had
>>> very very successful relationships with, and one in particular who has
>>> become a pretty good friend.. why, because they're honest stand up
people
>>> who look at prospective employment candidates as something more than
just
>>>       
>> an
>>     
>>> email address or a means to fulfill US State Department guidelines, to
>>>       
>> bring
>>     
>>> in H1B Visas candidates.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Scott Stewart
>>> ColdFusion Developer
>>> 4405 Oakshyre Way
>>> Raleigh, NC 27616
>>> (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835
>>>
>>>       
>>     
>
> 



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