Hello Aaron, Right. I read that on the Washington Post the other day. I heard that Brazil has had an increase in tech jobs and more people are employed there these days. However, their jobs are not so much outsourced jobs from other countries but jobs created within their boundaries. Not sure how that's working though. Brazil is investing big bucks on education. They are creating more private schools than they ever created before which is good. Hopefully in years to come there will be more qualified Brazilians and more research coming from there.
I have lived and worked in Brazil, Portugal, Canada and US. I have never experienced a market as aggressive as the US market. You work a lot here and you stress a lot. They take the milk out of you here. There is nothing like a "laid back" job in the US but we get remunerated and we learn a lot. The more the demand, the more one works and researches. Indeed, you become a better employee you are always going something here. Ravi. Aaron Rouse wrote: > Have you heard that Brazil is quickly becoming the next country to outsource > IT work to? I heard that just last week, it is something one manager here > is looking into even though it is not technically "east" but he likes the > idea of at least having people close to the same time zone he is in. > Your experience with outsource work matches exactly what I have experienced > over the past 10 years or so. I have been told, nothing to validate this, > that the quality of the outsourced work has greatly improved in recent > years. > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Ravi Gehlot <r...@ravigehlot.net> wrote: > > >> Hello Aaron, >> >> I have worked for companies that outsourced their jobs to India. >> Probably, I should NOT mention company names for privacy purposes but I >> will tell of my experience. I am not trying to put India down or attack >> Indian people. This is just my personal experience. I do think that >> Indian people are smart people. In fact, my dad is Indian and my mom is >> Brazilian. I was born and raised in Brazil though so my culture is >> Brazilian without any Indian influence (yes, no influence). However, all >> these companies I worked for that outsourced their code to India ended >> up with bad code. Think about messy code. It was a real mess. No >> standards, no guidelines, no comments or documentation of any kind, no >> code indentation, no orientation or organization whatsoever. A total >> junk of code. I would often open a cfm file that contained 5,000 lines >> of code. Most of it was code that was not even being utilized. It felt >> like the code had been patched up over and over again. So these >> companies ended up having to employ people from here to fix or start >> from scratch. My personal experience with outsourced work has always >> been very bad due to bad coding habits. Not to mention the communication >> gap. As the old saying..."You get what you pay for" is very true with >> outsourced jobs. I mean, we have the work force available in the US to >> do what these companies need. I say..let's stop outsourcing our jobs. >> But who am I to say anything. I am from Brazil...I guess if I were in >> Brazil and I had an outsourced job there...I would take it in a heart >> bit (survival of the fittest). But my advise to companies here in the US >> is trust your employees. Let them do the work and pay them well. It will >> pay off on the long run. >> >> I think that here in the US...most programmers are aware of code >> organization and most are well prepared to do the job. Will other >> countries catch up? Hell yeah...it won't take long...but man...right >> now...no India please. The code is bad. >> >> As far as "servant" goes...like I said..it is tougher for foreigners >> anyways but take the opportunity to work here because at least you and >> me and others have these opportunities available (jobs in South America >> or Europe don't pay good at all). Make no mistake...the economy will get >> better. It will improve by the end of next year and all these tech jobs >> will come back. It may not be as great as it was before but it will pick >> up again. >> >> Just my $0.02, >> Ravi. >> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/message.cfm/messageid:4217 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-jobs-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11
