>> reading a book and subscribing to a listserv does not a CF
Developer make.
Except the cftalk listserv of course. An absolutely fantastic learning tool.
There is always conversation happenstance on topics I am interested in
learning more. And fortunately by smarter people.
Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: John Wilker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 3:45 PM
To: CF-Jobs
Subject: RE: Net Tanking?
Totally my bad. I grossly over generalized the "bedroom" remark. Sorry guys,
I certainly wasn't aiming to offend, and certainly wasn't expecting
justifications, very sorry. But I stand by my belief that posers are out
there, everywhere, Telecommuters were not the intended target at all, hell
you go guys! We all have to start somewhere I'm down with that (been there),
mostly my beef is with people who come to me and say "I've mastered CF" when
their portfolio that they offer doesn't even have any CF sites in it, and
from speaking with them you can see that there is no practical application
experience, reading a book and subscribing to a listserv does not a CF
Developer make.
Sadly my point (poorly made) was lost. Sorry I got everyone all riled up,
but at least we're all awake :-)
I'll hush now.
J.
John Wilker
Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer
Directfit, formerly known as Integrated Partnerships
949.838.8811 Direct
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-----Original Message-----
From: Judith Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 11:54 AM
To: CF-Jobs
Subject: RE: Net Tanking?
You know, not everyone can afford to take the CF Classes. Some of us
"people who work from [their] our 'bedrooms' do so not because we really
want to, but because circumstances have made it so we have to. I live in an
area that is not 'overflowing' with CF opportunities....and because of
personal involvements, I have no wish to move.
I have been working with CF only since version 3.1, I have a college degree
in fine arts and come from a non-programming background. Does this make me
less of a professional? I have worked as a UNIX account
assistant/consultant (a step or so below full UNIX administration - taking
care of those problems that sys admins shouldn't need to worry about) and
as a CF developer. All my computer skills I learned on my own...starting
with Macintosh, working through UNIX, learning Windows 3.1, 95, 98 and NT4,
and Linux (RedHat 6.2).
Some day, I would love to be able to afford to get some 'formalized
training' if only to have that piece of paper that "proves my worth" to
people who, when they don't see a CIS or MIS degree listed in my resume,
dismiss my abilities - to do or to learn.
I proudly call myself a professional.
Judith Taylor
A Freelance 'bedroom' CF Developer
At 12:27 PM 2000-12-27, John Wilker wrote:
>[snip]
>That's a very common theme, in any industry, the professional people who
>have honed their skills taken classes and such have to contend with people
>who work from their bedrooms and call themselves professionals, who flood
>the market and cast a bad light on the industry as a whole.
>
>That being said (just a gripe I've had for a long time :-))
Judith Taylor
ICQ: 67460562
Freelance ColdFusion Developer
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