On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 09:46 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Apple may be getting more competitive, but I still think an Intel
> solution
> can be deployed cheaper than an Apple solution. For Instance: A Mac
> server
> with a 60GB ATA IDE drive 256 MB ram, etc., is about $3k, I can do that
> with
> SCSI for less in an Intel box. On top of the fact that who uses ATA IDE
> drives in a server? Coupled with the fact that they don't offer harware
> RAID (which I wouldn't buy any production box without), etc., I would
> never
> be able to get it past upper management. I wouldn't even try. I'd
> love to
> have OS/X on a server, but Intel Linux or even Intel Win2k is cheaper.
> Not
> even saying anything about administrative costs due to inexperience with
> Apple hardware or software.
>
Don't know enough about servers to respond other that there are several
price points.
http://www.apple.com/xserve/
One of these days, someone will do some benchmarks to make a realistic
comparison of the Mac offering to the competition
> The lowest cost iMAC is pretty cheap (as far as desktops go), but
> again - I
> could do intel cheaper.
>
Yes, but you might be more productive on a Mac
> Love the interface, love the fact it's on a BSD-based core, but it'll
> never
> have an inroad here without more offerings at less price.
You can get a classic iMac starting at $799 (new, better used) This is
a lot faster, etc than the old iMac I used for the port of CFMX to OS
X -- and it has exactly the same OS, Java, Apache, Perl, yadda, yadda,
yadda
http://www.apple.com/imac/g3/
Dick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Venable, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:22 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: X-server?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:25 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: X-server?
>
>> Plus, once you've spent all the $$ on the X-Server, you don't have cash
> left
>> for software :)
>
> From what I've seen Apple is really doing well on the price points as
> far as
> being competitive with other offerings. Am I wrong on this?
>
>> IMHO, despite how cool the X-Server is, Apple's about 5 years late in
>> getting a good server out -- though they needed the solid OS to get to
>> this
>> point -- and they have a lot of catching up to do. Our local (pretty
>> high-tech) schools are excited. Some graphics houses I know are
>> excited.
>> Mainly because they have a small form-factor file server.
>
> Well, Microsoft was at about 15 years late getting a good desktop
> operating
> system out, so maybe there's hope. ;-)
>
> John Venable
>
>
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