Ditto - we've done 2 aps with rave reviews and we are working on 2 more. -----Original Message----- From: Stacy Young [mailto:Stacy.Young@;sfcommerce.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day)
Remoting rocks. -----Original Message----- From: Tilbrook, Peter [mailto:Peter.Tilbrook@;abcb.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day) Memories of claims about Spectra's capabilities come to mind. >Flash Remoting certainly is a timely idea that could enable some very >impressive applications. However, the marriage of Flash and CF is far >from perfect. People talk of the possibilities and show examples that >wow developers, but the truth is that organizations who are trying to >build complex applications that make use of Flash Remoting are finding >serious problems. > >We have been working with Flash Remoting since the beginning and have >found it to be a constant struggle. Complex objects are corrupted and >line endings are changed as data is marshaled. Flash Remoting itself is >different in functionality and behavior from CFMX to J2EE to .NET. The >documentation is spares to non-existent, while at the same time >misleading on occasion. Worst of all, Macromedia has only acknowledged >out findings and has offered no solutions. > >Flash Remoting is a great idea, but it simply isn't all there. Like any >1.0 product, buyer beware. I look forward to the day when the issues are >fixed. > >Matt Liotta >President & CEO >Montara Software, Inc. >http://www.montarasoftware.com/ >888-408-0900 x901 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David Hannum (Ohio University) [mailto:hannum@;ohio.edu] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:29 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day > > > > > I'll back you up. MM has a long history of abandoning products. >Everyone > > > seems to act like CF is invincible, yet it was sold by Allaire a >little > > > over a year ago. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Do you think MM will keep CF around if it starts to tank? Phat >chance. > > > If the software doesn't sail, these captains jump before the women >and > > > children. I know I'm not the only one who learned Generator. :) > > > > > > > MM bought Allaire, not because there was anything wrong with it, but > > because > > there was so much right with it. When you can do as much and more >with > > CFMX > > and Flash MX than you could with Generator, with much less cost and >far > > less > > server overhead, why shouldn't you abandon Generator? The cfm/fla > > marriage > > is perfect. Cost to performance and capability, it's positioned to be >the > > greatest thing since soft butter! If you've read the postings of >people > > who > > attended DevCon, you'll notice an extreme optimism among CF'ers. MM >is > > taking CF & Flash to the lead in a new wave of internet applications. >And > > the neat part is, MM is making it possible for PHP, ASP and Java to >play > > too! I was very skeptical when MM purchased Allaire. But they keep > > showing > > me a stronger and stronger commitment. I have no trouble staying with >MM. > > They've shown that they are making CF one of their flagship products. > > > > As for dropping a product when it's outlived its useful life, that's >just > > good business. That does not make a company bad. Generator's life >had > > come > > to an end when it became apparent that client side power was practicle > > with > > the advances in Flash. CF is a much better server side solution to >power > > that. Dropping Generator was not a bad idea on MM's part. It was a >very > > good idea. Good business. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
