Matt, can you provide examples of what you've run into with these issues?
I'm a UI developer and I don't recognize the term "marshalling".

Thanks,

-Kevin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta@;r337.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:03 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day)
>
>
> Have you tried using Flash Remoting with anything other than CFMX?
> Have you tried marshalling complex objects?
> Have you tried marshalling objects with large blocks of text?
> Have you tried any of the above on mixed platforms i.e. Windows and
> Linux?
>
> Matt Liotta
> President & CEO
> Montara Software, Inc.
> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> 888-408-0900 x901
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:mkruger@;cfwebtools.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:54 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day)
> >
> > Ditto - we've done 2 aps with rave reviews and we are working on 2
> more.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stacy Young [mailto:Stacy.Young@;sfcommerce.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day)
> >
> >
> > Remoting rocks.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tilbrook, Peter [mailto:Peter.Tilbrook@;abcb.gov.au]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:00 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Flash Remoting (was RE: SOT: Sad Day)
> >
> > Memories of claims about Spectra's capabilities come to mind.
> >
> > >Flash Remoting certainly is a timely idea that could enable some very
> > >impressive applications. However, the marriage of Flash and CF is far
> > >from perfect. People talk of the possibilities and show examples that
> > >wow developers, but the truth is that organizations who are trying to
> > >build complex applications that make use of Flash Remoting are
> finding
> > >serious problems.
> > >
> > >We have been working with Flash Remoting since the beginning and have
> > >found it to be a constant struggle. Complex objects are corrupted and
> > >line endings are changed as data is marshaled. Flash Remoting itself
> is
> > >different in functionality and behavior from CFMX to J2EE to .NET.
> The
> > >documentation is spares to non-existent, while at the same time
> > >misleading on occasion. Worst of all, Macromedia has only
> acknowledged
> > >out findings and has offered no solutions.
> > >
> > >Flash Remoting is a great idea, but it simply isn't all there. Like
> any
> > >1.0 product, buyer beware. I look forward to the day when the issues
> are
> > >fixed.
> > >
> > >Matt Liotta
> > >President & CEO
> > >Montara Software, Inc.
> > >http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> > >888-408-0900 x901
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: David Hannum (Ohio University) [mailto:hannum@;ohio.edu]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:29 PM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: Re: SOT: Sad Day
> > > >
> > > > > I'll back you up. MM has a long history of abandoning products.
> > >Everyone
> > > > > seems to act like CF is invincible, yet it was sold by Allaire a
> > >little
> > > > > over a year ago.
> > > >     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > > Do you think MM will keep CF around if it starts to tank? Phat
> > >chance.
> > > > > If the software doesn't sail, these captains jump before the
> women
> > >and
> > > > > children. I know I'm not the only one who learned Generator. :)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > MM bought Allaire, not because there was anything wrong with it,
> but
> > > > because
> > > > there was so much right with it.  When you can do as much and more
> > >with
> > > > CFMX
> > > > and Flash MX than you could with Generator, with much less cost
> and
> > >far
> > > > less
> > > > server overhead, why shouldn't you abandon Generator?  The cfm/fla
> > > > marriage
> > > > is perfect.  Cost to performance and capability, it's positioned
> to be
> > >the
> > > > greatest thing since soft butter!  If you've read the postings of
> > >people
> > > > who
> > > > attended DevCon, you'll notice an extreme optimism among CF'ers.
> MM
> > >is
> > > > taking CF & Flash to the lead in a new wave of internet
> applications.
> > >And
> > > > the neat part is, MM is making it possible for PHP, ASP and Java
> to
> > >play
> > > > too!  I was very skeptical when MM purchased Allaire.  But they
> keep
> > > > showing
> > > > me a stronger and stronger commitment.  I have no trouble staying
> with
> > >MM.
> > > > They've shown that they are making CF one of their flagship
> products.
> > > >
> > > > As for dropping a product when it's outlived its useful life,
> that's
> > >just
> > > > good business.  That does not make a company bad.  Generator's
> life
> > >had
> > > > come
> > > > to an end when it became apparent that client side power was
> practicle
> > > > with
> > > > the advances in Flash.  CF is a much better server side solution
> to
> > >power
> > > > that.  Dropping Generator was not a bad idea on MM's part.  It was
> a
> > >very
> > > > good idea.  Good business.
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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