Oh yea... I lock therefore I am. :) > Yes CFMX docs. I'm talking about CFMX, don't know what > anybody else is > talking about, or even if they really exist.
>> -----Original Message----- >> From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, 2 April 2003 12:15 p.m. >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: RE: Is there a trick... >> >> Is that from the MX doc's or the CF5 docs? ... I think he >> was referring to >> CF5 if I'm reading correctly... "session scope was >> protected >> automatically"? >> ... What I've heard from others is that the session scope >> was actually the >> most volatile of the shared scopes (although it may >> simply be that it was >> just more used than the other scopes). >> >> > Pretty sure. The docs: >> >> > While the ColdFusion Server is thread-safe and does not >> > try to modify a >> > variable simultaneously, it does not ensure the correct >> > order of access to >> > information. If multiple pages, or multiple invocations >> > of >> > a page, attempt >> > to write data simultaneously, or read and write it at >> > the >> > same time, the >> > resulting data can be inconsistent, as illustrated in >> > the >> > following Sample >> > locking scenarios section. >> >> > It doesn't say "thread-safe except if you try to access >> > application and >> > server scopes". >> >> > Yes you still have to lock them. But CFMX does it >> > automatically, so you >> > don't have to do it explicitly. >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Barney Boisvert >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Sent: Wednesday, 2 April 2003 11:17 a.m. >> >> To: CF-Talk >> >> Subject: RE: Is there a trick... >> >> >> >> Are you sure about this? It is my understanding that >> >> the >> >> session scope >> >> was >> >> protected automatically, but that the application (and >> >> server) scope still >> >> had to be locked. You can avoid having to do read >> >> locks >> >> with CFLOCK on a >> >> scope if you ensure that they are never written after >> >> initially set, and >> >> that every request ensures that they are set before >> >> proceeding, but you >> >> still have to lock them in one form or another >> >> >> >> barneyb >> >> >> >> --- >> >> Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer >> >> AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.) >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> voice : 360.756.8080 x12 >> >> fax : 360.647.5351 >> >> >> >> www.audiencecentral.com >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> > From: Matthew Walker >> >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 3:00 PM >> >> > To: CF-Talk >> >> > Subject: RE: Is there a trick... >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Automatic locking. Previously you needed to write >> >> > >> >> > <cflock timeout="1" throwontimeout="No" >> >> > type="READONLY" >> >> > scope="APPLICATION"> >> >> > [do something with app variables] >> >> > </cflock> >> >> > >> >> > Many people got around this by simply copying the >> >> > application >> >> > scope into the >> >> > request scope in Application.cfm or thereabouts. >> >> > Others >> >> > simply >> >> > wrote lots of >> >> > constants directly into the request scope on each >> >> > page >> >> > request >> >> > (which isn't >> >> > nearly as slow as you might think). >> >> > >> >> > With CFMX you don't need to lock access to scopes >> >> > like >> >> > application and >> >> > session. >> >> > >> >> > > -----Original Message----- >> >> > > From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, 2 April 2003 10:47 a.m. >> >> > > To: CF-Talk >> >> > > Subject: Re: Is there a trick... >> >> > > >> >> > > Isaac, >> >> > > >> >> > > What's the benefit that CFMX offers in the >> >> > > Application scope? >> >> > > >> >> > > Calvin >> >> > > >> >> > > <cf_snipalot /> >> >> > > >> >> > > > You'll be needlessly accessing the application >> >> > > > scope anyway. The >> >> > > application >> >> > > > scope should really only be used for data which >> >> > > > might change >> >> > > periodically >> >> > > > based on time of day, administrative >> >> > > > interraction >> >> > > > (i.e. "this >> >> > feature is >> >> > > > currently unavailable due to maintenance"), or >> >> > > > to >> >> > > > refresh a cacheing >> >> > > > routine, etc. Data which is set, static and >> >> > > > required on every page >> >> > > should >> >> > > be >> >> > > > set solely in the request scope, unless you're >> >> > > > running CFMX >> >> > and planning >> >> > > to >> >> > > > access it directly from the application scope -- >> >> > > > which I prefer not >> >> to >> >> > > do >> >> > > > because imho there's no real benefit over using >> >> > > > the >> >> > > > request >> >> > scope while >> >> > > > there are definite advantages to using the >> >> > > > request >> >> > > > scope if you end >> >> up >> >> > > > needing backward compatibility for CF 5. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > hth >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > s. isaac dealey 954-776-0046 >> >> > > > >> >> > > > new epoch >> >> > > > http://www.turnkey.to >> >> > > > >> >> > > > lead architect, tapestry cms >> >> > > > http://products.turnkey.to >> >> > > > >> >> > > > tapestry api is opensource >> >> > > > http://www.turnkey.to/tapi >> >> > > > >> >> > > > certified advanced coldfusion 5 developer >> >> > > > http://www.macromedia.com/v1/handlers/index.cfm? >> >> > > > ID= >> >> > > > 21816 >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> > ~~~ >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~| >> > Archives: >> > http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid >> > =4 >> > Subscription: >> > http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index. >> > cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 >> > FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq >> > Your ad could be here. 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