> He was asking for performance.  And those technologies are mostly slow.
> Write an ecommerce site in assembly.

He was also asking for a comparison to JSP and ASP etc, not assembly.

Your initial answer was a poor generalization at best, though your comments
below do reveal more about your viewpoint.

-Cameron

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kwang Suh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 10:07 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Good Ol' Cold Fusion Performance Question
>
>
> > Ummmmm, wow -- fast and slow at what? Development? Compilation?
> Execution?
> > Performance under load? Math calculations? etc etc?
> >
> > CFMX, JSP compile to java byte code and get executed by a JVM.
> > PHP, ASP compiles to pseudocode and is run by a C++ interpreter.
> > ASP.NET is compiled to .NET bytecode (that's not the right term
> -- I'm not
> a
> > .NET guy, but it's equivalent) and is run by the CLR
> >
> > What's that mean for performance? Nada. Your code is the issue. At least
> for
> > the first 90% or so of performance -- then it comes down to server, OS,
> > hardware, database, and application server tweaking.
>
> He was asking for performance.  And those technologies are mostly slow.
> Write an ecommerce site in assembly.  It'll probably scream.  But
> it'll take
> forever to write, and writing scalability features into it will be a major
> undertaking.
>
> Are you disagreeing with the fact that they are slow?  Because, heck, they
> are.  But that's the price that paid for quick(er) development time,
> scalability, reliability, and convenience.  And that's not a bad
> thing.  It
> sure is a good thing.
>
> >
> > > But, that's only half the story.  There's a big difference between
> > > _scalability_ and _performance_.  JSP, CFMX, ASP.NET are all highly
> > > scalable.  So, even though it takes 100ms for any single request, when
> you
> > > have, say, 10000 users, it still takes 100ms.  Other
> technologies (cough
> > > classic ASP, PHP cough) fall flat and die at such high volumes.
> >
> >
> > I had no clue I could scale to 10,000 users on the same hardware with no
> > performance degredation in CFMX (or JSP or ASP.NET for that matter). Of
> > course there's a difference -- but it's nowhere near that easy
> or linear.
>
> No, it's not that simple.  But some systems just will not scale, no matter
> how much hardware or code optimization or whatever what factors you have
> under your control you optimize.
>
> 
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