There's still a lot of this that goes on: Developer tries technology x by writing a page, or perhaps a mini-app.
Developer is disappointed that it's slow - perhaps they're getting 150ms times even on simple pages. Developer throws away tech x. Developer tries tech y. Same result. Developer tries PHP. Hey, it's fast! So let's use that! I'd rather have someone realize that, up front, many of the big players offer products that can plonder along. But for good reason. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cameron Childress" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 8:37 AM Subject: RE: Good Ol' Cold Fusion Performance Question > > He was asking for performance. And those technologies are mostly slow. > > Write an ecommerce site in assembly. > > He was also asking for a comparison to JSP and ASP etc, not assembly. > > Your initial answer was a poor generalization at best, though your comments > below do reveal more about your viewpoint. > > -Cameron > > ----------------- > Cameron Childress > Sumo Consulting Inc. > --- > cell: 678-637-5072 > aim: cameroncf > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kwang Suh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 10:07 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Good Ol' Cold Fusion Performance Question > > > > > > > Ummmmm, wow -- fast and slow at what? Development? Compilation? > > Execution? > > > Performance under load? Math calculations? etc etc? > > > > > > CFMX, JSP compile to java byte code and get executed by a JVM. > > > PHP, ASP compiles to pseudocode and is run by a C++ interpreter. > > > ASP.NET is compiled to .NET bytecode (that's not the right term > > -- I'm not > > a > > > .NET guy, but it's equivalent) and is run by the CLR > > > > > > What's that mean for performance? Nada. Your code is the issue. At least > > for > > > the first 90% or so of performance -- then it comes down to server, OS, > > > hardware, database, and application server tweaking. > > > > He was asking for performance. And those technologies are mostly slow. > > Write an ecommerce site in assembly. It'll probably scream. But > > it'll take > > forever to write, and writing scalability features into it will be a major > > undertaking. > > > > Are you disagreeing with the fact that they are slow? Because, heck, they > > are. But that's the price that paid for quick(er) development time, > > scalability, reliability, and convenience. And that's not a bad > > thing. It > > sure is a good thing. > > > > > > > > > But, that's only half the story. There's a big difference between > > > > _scalability_ and _performance_. JSP, CFMX, ASP.NET are all highly > > > > scalable. So, even though it takes 100ms for any single request, when > > you > > > > have, say, 10000 users, it still takes 100ms. Other > > technologies (cough > > > > classic ASP, PHP cough) fall flat and die at such high volumes. > > > > > > > > > I had no clue I could scale to 10,000 users on the same hardware with no > > > performance degredation in CFMX (or JSP or ASP.NET for that matter). Of > > > course there's a difference -- but it's nowhere near that easy > > or linear. > > > > No, it's not that simple. But some systems just will not scale, no matter > > how much hardware or code optimization or whatever what factors you have > > under your control you optimize. > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Host with the leader in ColdFusion hosting. Voted #1 ColdFusion host by CF Developers. Offering shared and dedicated hosting options. www.cfxhosting.com/default.cfm?redirect=10481 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
