http://www.eclipse.org

For a summary, you might also be interested in an article I wrote on 
the subject.

http://www.devx.com/ibm/Article/6884

-Matt

On Thursday, August 28, 2003, at 03:55 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>       What is this Eclipse you speak of and where would I find?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:55 PM
> To: CF-Talk
>
>> In the end, I think having an IDE that welcomes other developers is an
>> excellent R&D opportunity as well. If MM knows what ASP and PHP coders
>> are doing, what their tools offer, etc. it gives them better insight
>> on how to keep CF competitive - or one step ahead as is the current
>> situation.
>
> In regards to .NET, DW is a steaming pile of crap compared to VS.NET.
> They're not even in the same league.  Mind you, DW is way cheaper than
> VS.NET :)  But, I'd still buy VS.NET over DW any day of the week.  The
> Professional version is a little bit more than DW, and it contains
> interactive debugging, a fully featured database front end, great help,
> intellisense, a better code editor, and the higher editions have design
> tools that DW will probably _never_ have.  Or, I can get VS.NET 
> standard for
> < $100, which is far, far cheaper than DW.
>
> Or heck, I can get Primal Code for $249, I can then code in .NET, php, 
> and
> CF, and a whole bunch of other languages.
>
> Or, I can get Eclipse for free, and do what I want with it.
>
> Point being: MM has a heck of a lot (and I mean a LOT) of work to do 
> with DW
> before it becomes a serious contender in the IDE market.
>
>
> 
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