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Cutter Ben Densmore wrote: > Not to sway too far from what's currently being discussed but is there any > chance that a *NIX version of DW will be made? > > Aren't a majority of the people who use php more into Linux and Unix? > > If they really wanted to get more php users a *NIX version would probably > pique their interest. > > One of the main reasons I don't switch to linux full time is because I can't > use DW and photoshop. I know I could use wine but it's not the same to me. > > Ben > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joshua Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:39 PM > Subject: RE: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us? > > > >>Something you have to remember is that Dreamweaver was quite popular >>before MM had CF in it's toolkit. You can't expect them to totally >>change the strategy of an already popular tool just to please the CF >>community. There's a large DW community as well and they do not all - or >>even most - use CF. >> >>Marketing is targeted to increase sales in a certain area. CF developers >>already buy DW and are keenly aware of it, there is no competing product >>for CF developers, it's the other folks that need to be introduced to it >>and need to be shown how it compares to their current tools. >> >>Granted, I pretty much stopped using DW when MX rolled out, but lots of >>people love it. You can't expect MM to stop schmoozing it's pre-existing >>customer base and ONLY focus on CF. Seriously now, you don't want all >>those ASP and PHP folks spending their money somewhere else - the beauty >>of it is that all of those people who buy DW and use it to code PHP and >>ASP are contributing to the future of MM and CF with their funds. >> >>In the end, I think having an IDE that welcomes other developers is an >>excellent R&D opportunity as well. If MM knows what ASP and PHP coders >>are doing, what their tools offer, etc. it gives them better insight on >>how to keep CF competitive - or one step ahead as is the current >>situation. >> >>I think that would be a better angle for you than touting Dreamweaver as >>your IDE, to say that all of those people coming in to do ASP >>development obviously believe in Macromedia - they use their tools. Then >>you can tell them the other developers are just too cheap to fork over >>the $ for a real App Server and that's why they choose ASP :) >> >>Joshua Miller >>Head Programmer / IT Manager >>Garrison Enterprises Inc. >>www.garrisonenterprises.net >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>(704) 569-0801 ext. 254 >> >>************************************************************************ >>************* >>Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, >>except where the sender states them to be the views of >>Garrison Enterprises Inc. >> >>This e-mail is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is >>addressed and contains information that is private and confidential. If >>you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any >>dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you >>have received this e-mail in error please delete it immediately and >>advise us by return e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>************************************************************************ >>************* >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:15 PM >>To: CF-Talk >>Subject: RE: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us? >> >> >>Listen, >> >>I am by far not the only one that has responded to this topic,so don't >>make it appear as though I'm bitching up a storm unnecessarily. >> >>>From Ben Forta's reply, the thread has been read and salient portions >>sent onto the right people. >> >>Ergo the discussion has helped in whatever small way. >> >>Ciao. >>-Angel >> >>P.s. in answer to your questions: >> >>"Are you saying that your clients will choose whether or not to >>give you work based on the IDE you use?" No. >> >>"Further, are you saying that you pitch CF as a solution to your clients >>partly because of DW MX?" >> >>Because of MM support for DWMX and it's assistance in RAD for CF,and the >>fact that it has become well known, It is worth mentioning as part of a >>pitch to provide a CF Based solution. >>(You may want to check Microsoft's website and their case studies which >>always mention the Microsoft Visual IDE used and how it enhances the >>.NET platform and makes it easy for developers to provide their >>solution, if this confuses you.) >>We have mentioned Dreamweaaver MX as an example that the application >>server has a mature and cohesive IDE behind it and is part of the larger >>MM vision and product suite.We have illustrated the fact that it uses >>industry standard development environments same as .ASP and PHP,in >>response to client's questions about the maturity of Coldfusion as >>opposed to .ASP and whether future expansion of their solution will be >>stymied because of loss of support for emerging technologies. It helps >>when answering questions sitting face to face with a client to whom >>'Coldfusion' is something alien, and Microsoft is an old friend.We >>mention Flash too, btw. And I don't think that's ludicrous at all. >> >>I don't know about you, but we compete for projects against .ASP >>developers in our particular market for web solutions. For some clients, >>and sadly usually the larger ones, .ASP is more attractive, and CF must >>be 'sold' to them. It's forced us to expand to encompass providing .ASP >>solutions. >> >>So do I think that having a well known product like DWMX in your corner >>helps during a sales pitch? Yes I do. Much better than saying we use >>Notepad to create your corporate website, when the other guy comes in >>talking about the "Visual Studio .NET suite" and how they can change the >>world with it, and oooh look at these nice case studies...see what we >>can do for you. >> >>"I'm sorry, but that just sounds ludicrous to me" >>Perhaps next time you should wait for me to answer...if my answer to >>your diatribe matters that is. Either way I've said what I've had to say >>and won't be responding to this thread any longer. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>I have a quick question for you, since this is the second time you've >>suggested it. Are you saying that your clients will choose whether or >>not to >>give you work based on the IDE you use? Further, are you saying that you >> >>pitch CF as a solution to your clients partly because of DW MX? I'm >>sorry, >>but that just sounds ludicrous to me -- how I do my work is >>inconsequential >>to getting it done as far as the client is concerned. I think Macromedia >>has >>a lot of other positives you can point to if you need to pitch their >>stability as a company to your client (which, again, I think is >>ludicrous). >> >>Look, I understand you're not very happy with DW 2004 (even though it >>sounds >>like you haven't even seen it yet). And yes, I would agree that there's >>probably been some marketing missteps regarding the CF community (as >>others >>have pointed out, including some employees themselves). But you're >>making an >>awful lot of noise about a non-released product. If you're so >>dissatisfied, >>can you direct your frustrations to the proper people at Macromedia. I'm >> >>sure you'll be able to find their e-mail addresses on their web site. >>I'd >>like to get back to learning/helping people on the list with technical >>issues. >> >>Regards, >>Dave. >> >> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
